• Google makes youtube x5 slower on non-chrome browsers by using a deprecated API
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https://twitter.com/cpeterso/status/1021626510296285185
not surprising in the least
Another billion or two to the EU?
How many times do regulators need to keep teaching you this lesson, old man? How long ago was it that Google ditched its "do no evil" slogan?
Their mobile news site also loads like absolute dogshit for the past month on firefox when it was just fine before that. Takes a god damn minute to fully load for apparently "no reason".
Google you're only hurting yourself with this. The last thing Youtube needs is to scare people away from their site.
I swear it's been slower on Chrome too recently
If there was a real youtube alternative you'd be right about scaring people away. There's nothing really stopping Google from doing shit like this right now.
Might want to put this tweet in the OP, @EIREXE https://twitter.com/cpeterso/status/1021801908128833537
The only alternatives have to be decentralized youtube clones, because otherwise it's very expensive to host it.
this implies that there is a good alternative if something started to actually compete (lol), you'd see them stopping these tactics
We're getting close to it.
Slightly related, YouTube performance has been getting progressively worse in the Android app. At some point it was possible for high-end phones to play HDR videos, even in 4K. Now I can't do that in even 1080p. Not even 720p. In fact, I can no longer play regular 4K, and even 2.5K is being choppy. Why?
wtf, installed the extension in FF and there's a night & day difference
Is this extension just reverting back to the classic version by forcing a cookie? I've just been using this for months https://www.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions?disable_polymer=1
I installed it too, holy shit what a difference. I didn't even realise how bad it was... I think because I was using my old pc until a year ago and youtube was always kinda sluggish on that, then the redesign came out, sluggishness of course remained the same, then I upgraded to my new Ryzen build but since I still use Firefox, I never perceived any difference because the redesign was... still sluggish. Installing that extension to go back just changes the overall experience so much, and in such a good way. Install a youtube dark theme and you're laughing. Yikes.
Is there an extension for Edge? I really like it on my lightweight computers since it's faster than Chrome in almost everything, but I thought something was wrong with my internet routing because youtube was loading so slowly.
Installed the addon and YT no longer needs to pause to buffer on 1080p60 for me and it no longer freezes when jumping around.\ With Google's usual stance towards competition in circumstance, this can't be excused as stupidity, a la Hanlon's Razor.
I'm just glad it wasn't my pc acting up. But still, fuck Google.
I'm using Chrome, and lately when switching YT videos to fullscreen it takes a full 3 seconds to switch which is insane. Anyone else have this problem?
the difference really is night & day with that add on, though now I can't find the dark theme.
In this case though, an alternative doesn't have to be a video streaming service. If it takes too long to load youtube, and I don't have something specific that I want to watch, I might decide to spend my time doing something else. I might also just watch less youtube.
For some reason that link doesn't always work. Setting the cookie manually does even when the link doesn't though. This is a quote from somewhere on Reddit that I didn't bother bookmarking but it's instructions for manually setting the cookie: IF you want to PRESET the COOKIE for a longer time and stop youtube moving to new template you need COOKIE editors that BLOCK the cookie from being over written by new cookie setting but it wont last for ever as Youtube is cycling the Cookie code to disable the old template loading in regions at a time... in the cookie called PREF theres a F6=????? this cookie it the template code which google sets and over writes when changes are made... For firefox DARK is currently =400 White is currently =41404 when you never enabled dark theme and c1004 after disabling dark theme... OLD is currently =c1008 For chrome White is currently = 80000 Dark theme is = 400 OLD is currently = 80008 If the cookie has no F6 code they will push the new site... If you use a cookie editor and select the pref cookie and enter the correct F6 value then set padlock or secure and extended the expire date then youtube cant over ride that cookie set up at all...
It's fucking shit ass slow for me lately on Chrome anyways. Buffer buffer buffer buffer. Fucking Youtube...
Now THIS is anti-competetive behaviour. Someone call EU.
well this seems [perfectly legal and won't be challenged under US law any time soon.]
the fact that they ditched it also makes it so i believe they KNOW they no longer believe or live by that...
Net neutrality is only about ISPs treating traffic as fair and equal. This is fair game in the eyes of net neutrality, unless it was happening with Google Fiber exclusively. It does tip toe on anti-trust laws though.
Chromium's open source, and Google Chrome is just a Google'd fork of it. Couldn't other browsers copy this functionality?
Probably sending a fake user-agent header
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