Tommy Jeans, part of the Tommy Hilfiger brand, believe they can solve this part of the problem. Their new line, Tommy Jeans Xplore, will contain smart-chip technology that will track how often customers wear the clothes. Tommy Jeans will offer rewards and experiences, including gig tickets and gift certificates, to people that wear their clothes often enough (presumably some rewards will be even more wear-tracking items).
https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/jul/26/tommy-hilfiger-new-clothing-line-monitor-customers
what a stupid load of shit
at it again with that bullshit scaremonger definition of spying?
it's not something i'd want to use, but it's blatantly consensual and requires you to use their app in order to collect any data at all
Until these things are inevitably hacked like all IOT devices.
Just because it's consensual doesn't make it less wrong or evil.
oh no! someone nearby logged into my pants' step-counter!
that kind of what-if on security practices isn't a moral argument for IOT as a concept
A hoodie tracking where you are at all times isn't evil?
no, a hoodie that lets the user control when it is and isn't tracking its location, in exchange for monetary benefit, isn't evil
Step 1. Build non-stop moving robot legs
Step 2. Put smart pants on robot legs
Step 3. Make robot legs run on treadmill that powers a generator
Step 4. Reap rewards for 24/7 Tommy wearing + free electricity
You can also go further another step by repeating the process with the free tracking clothes you get from the rewards and then sell all that extra electricity you're making.
Admittedly privacy isn't really the main issue here. IOT devices are often used as botnet agents when hacked, and since I doubt a clothesline cares much about information security, (and because I doubt the firmware of a chip inside a pair of jeans will ever be updated) these are going to be prime targets.
That's my reason to be against this.
i figured the main reason stuff like this was considered stupid wasn't so much because it's particularly dangerous but because it's completely pointless. you're introducing a potential internet security risk in to your trousers.
the positives, of which i can see practically none for the consumer, are being completely overshadowed by the risk of carrying an insecure, internet connected device on yourself all day for no reason.
even if that risk isn't exactly huge there's no quite literally point in introducing it in to your life.
Idk if people arent reading or are misunderstanding but you aren't carrying around internet connected devices in your clothes, they have bluetooth chips which connect to your phone so they are entirely separated from the internet?
What powers the robot legs
clothing microtransactions when
The complete entropy generated by late stage capitalism.
Honestly clothing is the biggest microtransaction of all time, by default you don't even have any of the game, then you have to buy all the parts separately not to mention the fact you constantly have to check the tag for incompatibility.
Exactly this.
People are way to quick to jump on the IoT hating bandwagon without any technology having been shown. The problem with IoT is the people developing it, not the idea itself. If you hate all IoT products "because they can get hacked easily" why even have a computer at all? Throw out your phone, laptop and desktop and just go off the grid if you dont want to get hacked.
Or just think sensibly, wait for technology to become available, investigate (or wait for it to be pen tested) and make your choice if you want the product
Next up, monthly payment system for clothings, including level system, a street battle system and a cash shop for added accessories.
You guys see jeans that spy on you, I see a free pcb with every purchase!
Probably cheaper ways to get pcbs than hilfiger jeans but I agree with your general point.
Your "phone/app" isnt connected to the internet?
I give it a few months before full usage and location data is leaked from a centralized database they never even bothered encrypting.
Sure but this is an entirely different issue from people claiming these are iot devices that will quickly become part of a botnet.
Literally just a Fitbit in your clothes. This isn't spying, and it's not "evil" or "unethical". As long as the technology is a Bluetooth LE transmitter and not a full blown IoT device (which would require a larger power source I expect, so it's not quite clothes friendly). @EIREXE , I get that you're a "non-free software pls go" type, but have you ever considered that you might have overly reactionary responses to fucking anything that goes against your ideas of technology?
the ceo of Tommy clearly has never watched jimmy neutron this will only end in a pants based apocalypse
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/jimmyneutron/images/f/f8/Vlcsnap-2013-08-10-23h22m24s189.png/revision/latest?cb=20130811042236
the treadmill, duh
My ideas of technology don't have a problem with non-free software in this case, if it was free it would be the same problem.
I have an objective make people take control of their lives back, regardless of my personal cost, if I can make people associate stuff like this with spying then it's already a victory, even if my personal image is damaged.
Internet of Shit is a godsend of an account for daily funnies about IoT device fuckery.
I'll science this because fuck you.
Cheap hobby robot arms that use servos can move around 2m/s and the lever arms each will weigh about half a kilo at most and we'll say half a meter in length and are hooked together in such a fashion to achieve a generous 1/10 ratio from the base arm to the gripper arm.
That gives us 20 watts to work with for a robot that requires 100 watts at a functional minimum. To put that into perspective you produce around 250 watts for every second you walk. A treadmill with some form of dc generator on it will result in less power than what is exerted on it through friction and air resistance so no you cant get free electricity from it to power your hovel.
A better idea is to string up 20 pairs of the IoT jeans to a clothesline.
'Its not so bad guys, international fuckwit conglomerate corporations totally wont weaponize this shit against the common man!'
i'm sure they'll begin exploding any moment
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