• The Complete Moderate's Guide to Gun Control
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vggYGQyVaCo
I don't know how 'moderate' this is, but it's a pretty good summary of the history of gun control. I'll probably share it whenever I have a discussion of this issue in the future.
He's got a few things a bit off, but the general gist is correct. The founding fathers actually did attempt to purchase a fully-automatic weapon known as the "Belton Flintlock" and they were for the most part aware of where weapons were going, as they intended on getting standardized weapons with replaceable parts as soon as possible. The main problem they of course ran into was a lack of funding, and the inability to get the state governments to agree to a more Austrian-tier model of weapon procurement and research. It's also worth noting that several of the founding fathers sent of Lewis and Clark with Girandoni Air Rifles, specifically because of their firepower and silence. I would preferably never start discussing the huge, "is it militia or is it private rights?" at the National Firearms Act, but would rather start at the Militia Acts of the late 1800's and early 1900's, most notably the Militia Act of 1903, which established that all able bodied males from the ages of 17 ~ 45 are part of what is known as the unorganized militia. In note that doesn't like a big deal, but you gotta realize that it effectively means that I should legally be allowed to own military grade equipment. This is further echoed with US v. Miller, which found that the 2nd Amendments primary purpose is a well armed militia, organized and unorganized. It's a shitshow really. You can go back and forth between state law and federal law, and you'll be left in a nightmare quagmire. Not sure if you guys know this, but just recently, like this week, the 9th Circuit has basically stated that open carry is guarded by the 2nd Amendment, full stop.
I’m pretty sure there were a bunch of things in that video which were off, but the tide pod and shoe examples at the end were really terrible comparisons in particular. Putting Tide pods behind glass doesn’t prevent idiots from swallowing them, and the TSA is mostly just a security theater. Both are examples of ineffectual knee jerk reactions made to make people feel safer without actually doing anything to address the underlying causes.
One thing I've always thought was weird is the ban on automatic weapons but still allowing semi-automatic weapons. Automatic is basically only useful for making a lot of noise.
Because back then the government wasn't how it was now. The states were closer to a confederation than an actually unified federal republic, and everyone had an immense distrust for the central government, so while the government relied on state milita's the states wanted to make sure that the central government couldn't just take away those militia's ability to defend and fight for their own state in case some other states get some sneaky and furtive plans to control congress. We're so used to the government and the people being united, it's hard to imagine what it was like back then except as a comparison to say the EU, where everyone believed they were part of a country and not a greater union just yet, so I can understand why you don't understand this, even if they did go through it in the video. I just wanted to post this video as I feel it is an actual moderate viewpoint, it talks about a lot of things I as a moderate on gun control agree with and it's more of an overview of the whole topic and its history then necessarily just gun control, getting all the major points about gun control needed down (it will take time, it's not going to stop all gun violence, etc). I just feel like so many guns-rights activists are caught up in a "NO GUN CONTROL EVER" viewpoint as of late, even when it's relatively reasonable and would just add a few extra steps in the process of getting a gun, and all sticking your head in the sand like that is going to do is just let gun legislation pass without any say on your behalf as more and more people start to support it to try and stop the ridiculous gun violence this country has, whether or not that's the correct way to go about it.
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