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It’s widely speculated that Tesla delayed US vehicle deliveries and shipped more cars abroad in the second quarter in order to not pass the 200,000 vehicle milestone that starts the US federal EV tax credit phaseout. Indeed, as Tesla told us recently, the 200,000 vehicle milestone was passed in July, not June.
With that critical marker crossed and Tesla Model 3 production ramping up in the meantime, it seems appropriate to return to a comparison of Model 3 sales versus sales of competitors in its class. Last we heard from Tesla, the Model 3 had just become the top-selling small or midsize luxury car in the USA.
Using data from GoodCarBadCar and hints regarding Tesla Model 3 production, I came up with the data above and below — estimates for July. For the non-Tesla vehicles, I increased June sales by 5% to account for the extra day in the month and potentially higher sales. For Tesla, I think the 16,000 vehicle estimate is a bit conservative, but I’m more or less expecting that to be the figure in July. There were over 11,000 Tesla Model 3s in transit at the end of June, and it’s widely presumed that many of those were being held till July just so that Tesla wouldn’t cross that 200,000 vehicle milestone noted above until Q3. That’s a fairly high number, but with a production ramp at the end of July, production and deliveries may line up quite well anyway.
https://cleantechnica.com/2018/07/28/tesla-model-3-sales-vs-small-midsize-luxury-car-sales-usa-tesla-now-crushing-the-competition/
So many people at work that I know want a Tesla. Then again, it is a tech-related industry, so there's bound to be more overlap, but still.
Also, my browser takes up a third of the width of my screen, and the layout of the article snippet and everything blow it is shaking like mad up and down.
Just noticed mine does that as well if I reduce the size of my browser window. Converted it to a link.
I thought the model 3 wasnt supposed to be a luxury car.
It's entry level luxury, or premium as Tesla like to call it.
Tesla could probably get more sales if they made an effort to advertise to a broader market, managed production better, and didn't have such aggressively minimalist design philosophy. Personally, I like how Tesla's look inside and out but it seems to be something that people either love or hate. And I think if they're going to sell a pickup truck to compete with the F-150 they're going to need a more conventional interior design.
Definitely a level lower than those other listed cars
Weird list in general, do BMW 2's really count as luxury cars over there?
I think the major issue I have is that the front looks ugly and the dash is weird.
The dash thing is just some Apple tier bullshit, clearly theirs a lot of people that don't like it to warrant a change.
BMW in general is considered a "luxury" brand here. Being European probably has a lot to do with it
In what way? I would say that the BMW 2 series isn't a direct competitor with the Model 3, but it is cheaper, has worse performance, and is a generally smaller car. The Model 3 is a BMW 3 series competitor.
I've only seen one model 3 and scores of its competitors here in FL
I really think Tesla is better off not making a pickup. Ford really has the market cornered in pickups then theres GM and Chrysler eating whatever is left over (see Nissan trying to get into the pickup market) Tesla should work on making more affordable cars, something that doesnt start at luxury brand price.
Maybe it's just making the point that, even if you cast your net wide enough to include cars which are only questionably competitive, there are still more model 3s.
(since it's BMW 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 series on one bar)
Tesla are working on a Golf competitor for release in about 5 years. Electric pickups could offer some huge benefits over conventional ones.
I think Tesla will do pretty good if they can provide a pickup with 500+ range and great towing capacity while having features people expect in trucks. They're already designing one and have promised it after the Model Y.
Being able to beat and F-150 is going to be critical to getting people to come over to it. Brand loyalty with trucks is religious so the truck is gonna have to be a show stopper
Personally, I'd be sceptical of any article praising Tesla when the person writing the article has "long term investments" in that company
We got some info the pickup from Musk about a month ago:
Here’s a comprehensive list of the information we gathered from his Tweetstorm on the subject:
It’s going to be a big truck.Musk said that it will feature a step that will lower to step into the truck and he said that Andre the Giant will be able to fit in the driver’s seat.
The Tesla Truck is going to be a 6-seater.
It’s going to have an option for 400 to 500 miles of range “maybe higher”
Musk previously said that platforms like the Model S and Model X would probably be capped at 125 kWh of energy capacity, but he said that the truck platform will offer an opportunity for a much bigger battery pack.
Dual Motor All-wheel-drive powertrain with dynamic suspension will be standard on the truck.
The truck will have a 240-volt connection for heavy-duty tools and even an air compressor to run air tools.the second part was a suggestion that Musk liked since the truck will already have a pneumatic system for the air suspension.
‘300,000 lbs of towing capacity’.That’s another tweet where you have to ask yourself ‘is he kidding?’, but he is most often not. Though I’d bet the actual rated capacity is going to be much lower and like the Model X, owners will be able to push the truck further.
It will be able to float.Musk referenced how the Model S is able to, but that’s up to a certain degree and it’s obviously not recommended.
The Tesla Truck will have lockers.
Musk said that ‘it will look like a truck’.I take this as he is not planning an overly different design because it’s electric. He mentioned that he likes the design of the old Bronco.
Tesla Pickup Truck
Source? I don't remember that happening. The chief designer for Tesla Franz von Holzhausen, who still works there and hasn't been sued by Tesla.
Any European car company other than Volkswagen and Fiat are considered luxury here.
The same can be said about negative articles. Just take a look at Zero Hedge for the opposite side of the fence. Tesla was the most shorted stock in the US last I checked. There's a lot of people and organizations who stand to profit from Tesla's failure. Tesla news in general, pro or con, is polarized/political/whatever you want to call it and that needs to be kept in consideration when reading.
Sales don't account for good design, why do I need to mount my phone behind a steering wheel for basic features that my $6000 2013 Taurus has.
If the design was shit, then why would so many people be buying it? No one that has the car finds the speedo thing an issue after more than a few hours.
They could probably put nails protruding through the seats and Tesla fans would still defend it. That's hardly a good argument.
If people still buy it in large volumes, then it's obviously not an issue? An off-centre speedo takes a little bit of getting used to but it's not really an issue, and offers the benefit of letting air blow through the steering wheel and it doesn't get blocked by the spokes of the steering wheel.
Audi to some extent?
They have the highest quality you could ever find lol
People buy everything these days.
Subcompact crossovers are popular despite being hands-down the ugliest pieces of shit on the road today.
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Clearly some people value them, so that's up to them if they like it then whatever. The Juke doesn't sell in particularly large volumes though, about a quarter of the current rate of Model 3 production.
Despite what Tesla might say, I'm sure the minimalist design isn't by choice. It helps with keeping costs down. For example, by getting rid of the instrument cluster, that's one less screen, CPU and associated electronics/wiring to add to the cost of manufacturing the car.
I want the XC40 so bad. It's just a bit too out of my price range. I cri everytyme
Small SUV market is severely lacking in good design. Hey Tesla do a compact SUV with offroad capabilities. I'd buy the shit out of that.
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