• Giuliani says hes not sure collusion is a crime
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/30/politics/rudy-giuliani-collusion-crime-cnntv/index.html
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Which step are we on now? https://i.imgur.com/tuDKXrb.jpg
Some fucking lawyer you have there, Mr. President.
Wait what? How the fuck is this man even capable of being a lawyer, if he himself doesn't know the law? Like what in the everloving fuck? On a sidenote, I didn't know living a real life season of Southpark was gonna be this fucked.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/441/433ec2dc-fed8-4dce-8346-ad939ab8bdf7/image.jpeg This guy could’ve gone down as the guy who got NYC through 9/11/01, but here he is, ruining himself and his client who just so happens to be a President.
While it is possibly that the law doesn't cover the president colluding with another country Imagine if you committed murder and your lawyer made the defense "Sir, I'm not sure if murder is a crime" The jury would fucking flip their shit
I'm not sure Giuliani is a lawyer.
Hopefully when this shitfest is all over Trump will be in jail and Giuliani will be disbarred.
Spoiler alert. It is.
Technically there is no crime for 'colluding' but we've known that the whole time and have always known when the Law comes knocking on Trump's door it will be for crimes such as Defrauding the United States.
The act of colluding, in and of itself, likely isn't illegal per sè. The actions required to collude with the Russian government to influence the presidential election, however, are absolutely illegal for the most part.
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Of course he's not sure. He'd need to consult his own attorney first to be certain he's not saying anything self-incriminating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM
Some lawyer you are
Remember that Giuliani isn't just a stupid idiot's stupid idiot of a lawyer, he's also an active participant in the Trump Russia conspiracy. He's doing everything he can to damage the investigation's credibility and legitimacy and to weaken the population's appetite for criminal charges and impeachment because he knows that the President is absolutely guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors hundreds of times over.
It's like he looked at Trump always managing to top his own stupidity and went 'you know....'
So in the past year, we've gone from: 1) It never happened 2) There's no evidence of it 3) The evidence is fake 4) The evidence isn't enough to prove it 5) We thought we'd destroyed that evidence 6) The evidence only proves some people in the campaign tried to collude, nobody in charge authorized anything 7) People high in the campaign were involved but Trump had nothing to do with it 8) Even if Trump does get implicated, it wasn't technically illegal (Omitted for brevity: "what about ____" and "the real colluders were the filthy libs!" at basically every step) I'm having trouble thinking of how they can spin it any further. "Trump might have committed crimes but they aren't worth impeaching over"?
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/224422/6c6edf88-f6ae-4c0b-a76a-3c9903670746/doubt.jpg
The next step is probably going to be "Trump might have colluded and committed crimes, but we're in charge now and you can't touch us so deal with it."
What I'm seeing is even worse than that. I'm seeing republican senators saying 'ok, so even if we did collude with Russia: is that so bad?'
https://i.imgur.com/4Zgxq4z.jpg
I'm pretty sure Rudyboy is approaching negative numbers.
Yeah I don't think there is a legal definition for collusion but there is one for Conspiracy and Obstruction of Justice.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/107231/051c4676-bb73-42a0-9141-a3b64be7993b/1518408015847.png
Not for collusion, but for conspiracy there is.
Ruining himself and Trump for who, though? I'm sure we're at the point where anyone who would be against Trump and his circle already is, and the base he's had is all nodding their heads going "damned liberals..." along with it all. "Surely everyone will abadon him, now," as half of everyone says the same things he's been saying.
https://media.tenor.com/images/86eb7c00905ba5fa58b0e0bc7c7c7486/tenor.gif The fuck? How could collusion with a FOREIGN POWER not be fucking illegal? Its illegal in nearly every fucking law we have.
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