and yet ICE insists its just like summer camp, only if your summer camp resembles a concentration camp for children.
Dismantle ICE
All border patrol issues go to border patrol
Once they're in America only deport if they're arrested for a violent crime and can't prove citizenship (even then it should up to discretion of LEO since deportation can make the problem worse)
Arrest top ICE leaders and the guards in the concentration camps who are abusing children and drugging them illegally
It’s not a concentration camp cause they aren’t gassing them, stop making Nazi parallels, guyz :^)
This is disgusting. Countless lives ruined for a man’s hubris and distorted lust for justice by his cult.
It's not a concentration camp because mental healtb is just a liberal fake news
Calling these concentration or interment camps is disrespectful to people who actually suffered in real concentration and internment camps.
You mean people like this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/31/us/migrant-children-separation-anxiety.html?ref=oembed
How about the little girl who just died due to neglect in an ICE internment camp?
How much suffering does there have to be before it qualifies in your eyes?
Fuck right off, these kids are suffering, getting raped, and dying in these camps that there forced into. You want to hear disrespectful? How about listening to some doorknob online try to defend this bullshit. Why don't you sign yourself up for one of these camps for a bit and then tell us how you feel
These kids are being abused by the mere separations. They're being reunited with their parents after a month or two and don't even recognize them: they think they're just more social workers.
And that's just the start. They're told not to touch the social workers, so they recoil from physical contact with their parents. Some kids are so damaged by the experience that they refuse to play and sit in the center of the room, "behaving" the way they were trained to behave in detention, unaware that they're out of "jail" now and it's okay.
The Trump admin's policy of zero-tolerance family separation at the border was deliberately cruel and has traumatized a few thousand kids, some very young kids and babies. And by traumatizing the children, they've ripped at the foundation of all these families who were separated.
Let's remember that 460+ kids were effectively kidnapped straight out of their parents' hands and the parents were then deported out of the country with no idea IF they'd see their children again. And the US government has no idea where these parents are.
There were people who defended the family separation policy as border control efforts. I'd really love even one of those people to come into this thread to defend it now. I fucking dare anyone to defend this monstrous program and the absolute cuntflaps behind it: Jeff Sessions, Stephen Miller, John Kelly, and of course the Colluder In Chief.
Yeah, let's wait until people die or suffer long-lasting psychological effects from their treatment by ICE. Oh wait...
Please for the love of God don't be the asshole who debates the semantics of the term concentration camp while ICE commits daily human rights violations against small children.
And for the record, the first inmates to be rounded up into camps like Dachau where detained under the legal pretense of protective custody, when in reality what awaited them was political persecution. In other words, ICE is using the same kind of diversionary, disingenuous justification for detaining children that the Nazis used to administer state-sponsored political persecution.
Make no mistake, that's what this is: state-sponsored political persecution. The one and only goal of this new policy is, and has always been, to impose psychological terror on migrants and discourage them from entering the U.S. with their families under threat of indefinite detainment, irreparable trauma, and possibly losing their children altogether. This is not an accident. It is by design.
What do you gain from this? Attention? Self-satisfaction that you've won a game of semantics?
How long do you think it will take for a future administration to pay reparations?
Are you speaking for those people or will you listen to them since you're more or less citing them as an authority?
"At least during my internment, I was not taken from my parents" - George Takei
"Trump's family separation policy echoes my family's World War II internment. That damage lasted decades." - Representative Mark Takano
I think the Japanese internment camps is a better comparison. I know comparing the ICE to Nazi camps is a popular one, but if one makes sense, it's the internment camps after WWII. Doesn't make it less horrible though. In fact stories like this solidifies how awful we can treat others.
When we start hearing about people dying en masse, I think that's more than enough over the line to call them concentration camps. There are, after all, children being separated from their parents when they did literally everything legally -- which means these camps are a political tool which specifically target non-white foreigners (as well as those of particular religious faith) and are being used as a tool to depress asylum-seekers and immigration to the United States specifically by visiting atrocities on those who dare. The abuse isn't an 'unfortunate side effect' - it is literally the point.
So glad you could come in to use people who suffered in "real concentration and internment camps" as ammo for your non-argument as if you are the authority of what they would think about this.
if it is anything like previous administrations, they won't.
The Reagan administration apologized for the Japanese internment in 1988 and paid 20,000 dollars to each camp survivor.
Oh hey
It's almost like you're not actually paying attention to what's happening in your own nation, in your own borders!
SAD!
Aye, but I feel that was much more the exception than the rule, given our history.
I personally feel like a reparation should be more than a check cut out to someone who happened to survive.
But, I didn't know that, and thank you for informing me.
I've already said that I don't support these holding facilities, but they are not on any level anywhere near concentration or internment camps. The holding situation is comparable, but they aren't forced to work, they aren't starved, they are cared for. Of course shit is going to happen, shit happens. What's worse is what the parents put these children through on their way to the border, how many children do you think starve to death, are murdered and raped along the journey to the border? I'm willing to be a lot more than those being held in the US.
They are forced to work. They must work in order to purchase food. They aren't cared for so much as they are sedated and left to their own devices.
the travel to and across the border is not worse than the conditions in these camps.
these children are not cared.
I'm sorry, but that's just flat out wrong.
Just like how you've been 'flat out right' about literally everything you've said so far?
What's worse is what was waiting for those kids if they didn't make an effort to leave a nation that is actively crumbling
But you know what? You can keep feigning like you give a FUCK about human life here bud. No one buys it, because you don't even seem to fucking buy it
Concentration Camp | Definition of Concentration Camp by Merriam
I guess you better go put in a notice for Merriam-Webster cause they clearly got it all wrong.
You've been flat out wrong about everything you claim.
Why the fuck do you act like you have any authority on the events happening?
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