Tesla battery production at ~20GWh - more than all other car makers combined - Sensationalist Headlines

Tesla Gigafactory 1, the Tesla/Panasonic battery factory in Nevada, is starting to reach some impressive levels of production. The automaker has now confirmed Gigafactory 1 battery production is now at ‘~20 GWh’, which it claims is “more than all other carmakers combined.” ... Now Tesla has confirmed it in its shareholder letter released yesterday: “At the end of July, Gigafactory 1 battery production reached an annualized run rate of roughly 20 GWh, making it the highest-volume battery plant in the world by a significant margin. Consequently, Tesla currently produces more batteries in terms of kWh than all other carmakers combined.” ... Panasonic recently commented that ‘production at Tesla is gaining momentum’ and they plan to add 3 battery cell production lines. It should result in an annual production rate of 35 GWh. Tesla confirms Gigafactory 1 battery production at ‘~20 GWh’ – m.. https://twitter.com/Tesla/status/1025056079565082624

They're not using those batteries just for cars though, last I checked. They need a shitload of them.

Pretty sure TESLA still supplies batteries for other car manufacturers and also for their PowerWall and commercial Powerpacks. So makes sense they need a lot.

Deal with Mercedes ended a few years ago. Don't recall anyone else they supplied packs to. The vast majority of the cells go to cars, they said that the energy side is a bit starved of cells. They are going to need 500 to 600 MWh of cells per week for current vehicle production, so it's not even enough for them to be fully self sufficient yet.

20 or 35 GWHr is only a tiny fraction of the amount that would be needed to supply the world's cars. Even more when you consider grid storage.

It's not even close to fully built. It will produce 105 GWh / year when it is, and they are about to build another in China. Intention is to announce a European one before year end as well.

If we want one day of backup, each of those factories can only supply 0.02% of the storage needed per year. That's calculated from an energy consumption of 157,500 TWh per year. Build hundreds of factories like that and we're still way short.

You don't need a whole days backup for the whole world?

Wait, what? Why the hell are you even reminiscing about a world-wide capacity battery backup? I know you're super anti-Tesla, but damn, that is a wild goalpost move.

You do, at the very least. three days to a week is more realistic. That said, even if you do say you only need a few hours you're still looking at a tiny fraction of a percent.

We're talking about producing batteries for cars and home back-up. What the hell are you throwing 157,500 TWh around for?

Really dude? Yeah, not going to engage with you.

What on earth are you talking about Why would Tesla run the entire world for several days??

I assume Download is talking about the fact that the gigafactory(s) also produce cells for the Power wall/pack. I'm not sure why the hell we need the equivalent in batteries the amount of energy used by the entire planet for a week. Are we expecting all power stations to go offline for a week? Maybe the sun is planning a week long vacation?

Why are you bailing out before explaining yourself at all

I'm clearly not the only one being misled by your statements. So, if you aren't going to engage with me, at least do everyone else the favor of doing so with them.

Did you miss all the people who jerking off to how they've solved the renewable energy storage problem with Tesla batteries? How we're going to power our planet with wind and solar because Tesla batteries have solved the final "hurdle" with the technology.

Dunno why you guys are getting so shitty with one another lol Good on Tesla though. Hopefully with this massive increase in production we'll start to see prices come down significantly over the next few years, having your own solar/battery installation is still a big expense for most home owners, as are electric cars. On an unrelated note, I still wanna see nuclear energy make a big comeback. Solar, wind and battery packs + nuclear production to fill in the gaps where there's periods of inactivity, or in less optimal climates for those renewables = best combo

The article was about how Tesla ramped up battery production. You came in saying it only a fraction of the world wide need. I don't think anyone here would disagree with you, I think we're more wondering what that has to do with anything other than to find a fault. "Doctor cures man of cancer, millions others still at risk. Doctor ultimately a failure."

Honestly, a more apt comparison is "Doctor cures cancer, man complains about the fact that malaria, AIDS, Parkinson's, and schizophrenia remain uncured. When asked why even bring those up in a celebration for curing cancer, man replies with 'well don't you remember when everyone said that curing cancer was going to lead to solving all of the world's problems?' " Like, yeah, sure. People have suggested in the past that Tesla could possibly supply batteries for the world's power grids. And their current battery production isn't there yet. But no one brought that up in this thread.

Yes I missed "all those people". You've provided no context to your absolute nonsense statement. You're acting as if it's a bad thing that Tesla literally can't compete with the sun. No reasonable human is expecting them to, and certainly nobody in this thread is.

Your comparison is just as moronic. The sun has nothing to do with it. Why you keep repeating that phrase ad nauseam is beyond me.

Er, but electricity consumption is at ~23,000PWh in a year? Energy consumption is a different thing. Tripling that number, averaging it to a single day, and dividing it by 50 factories producing 105GWh each gives us 36 years to reach that uneccessary goal.

What's going on man? You've just come into this thread, shit posting about something based on a very loosely related tangen, and throwing out expletives and insults towards people for no reason. No one said that the storage issue was solved, just that the proof of concept was demonstrated. No one needs to store a week of power for the whole world because the because the sun isn't going to disappear suddenly.

You literally come into this thread and say "oh but Tesla can't supply the entire world!!!", as if fucking ANYONE claimed they could. Of course Teslas batteries can't do that. Currently the Sun is the only thing we have that can deliver enough energy to everyone, hence the comparison. It's wildly unreasonable to assume Tesla can do that, and it's wildly stupid to believe that's some prerequisite for Tesla to be successful. And when people point out your nonsense bullshit, you call them defensive? Are you just trolling?

What, if you can't supply every consumer that exists at the same time, it doesn't count or something? In what possible scenario would you need to replace every car at the same time?

Bring back PUI.

Aren't they just sticking vape batteries in a grid though, doesn't seem particularly news worthy.

Creating said batteries, and putting them in a battery pack. It's not just a simple grid.