• My Opinion on the Smash 4 Grand Finals at Evo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIrpkH2rlk4
too tired to make a full length post but heres my thoughts: booing is completely normal for sports events. if you can't take the heat, get out of the frying pan also those 2 deserve to be banned from evo for like a month after that stunt. they clearly don't even have any remorse about the situation considering how they're taunting ppl on twitter zer0 won a lot but he became a proper heel instead of acting like a shithead https://i.imgur.com/vawS05u.png
Throwing your own stock if the opponent SD's is the literal definition of throwing, which is a massive problem in tournaments for the very obvious reason of there being betting over matches and throwing in said matches being tantamount to matchfixing. In most games you're looking at matchfixing being a lifetime ban at best, and getting destroyed legally at worst.
imo both the booing and the actions of the players (stalling, throwing a stock) show disrespect for the competition and the efforts of everyone who puts on the event and the people who come out to play. just a strange event to me overall tbh. but there is an easy way to fix it: ban smash and put melty in features #povertevo
Bayo did nothing wrong.
I feel like if you're both the grand finalists you've already done your bit in terms of "showing respect" for the competition itself by putting in the effort. It's not like EVO itself is a respectable organization to begin with. It's kind of a funny situation it puts EVO in too, If you shitcan your two best players for doing a bit of a mutual bow before starting the fight well, your competition cant claim to have the best players next year either.
If said players are potentially actively colluding over the match result then you can and should ban both of them for life. At the very least there should be a proper investigation, potential fixing should never be taken lightly.
The competitive Smash community is definitely my least favorite fighting game community. Just has an air of arrogance to it. I don't really have much fault with the players themselves, but the community surrounding them is just unsavory. Especially with the infighting between Smash 4 and Melee. Apparently, Mr. Wiz has said this might be the final year for both Melee and 4 at EVO, with Ultimate being the only Smash game going forward. While I agree with this move, I can really only see Ultimate just making things worse for the competitive community, with those on the Melee side only pushing back against the community even harder. Shit like this is why I personally don't pay attention to competitive Smash, and just play Smash for what it is. A fun party/fighting game where you beat the shit out of your friends using characters from other video games. I feel like if I tried focusing on the competitive aspect at all, I simply just wouldn't be able to have fun with the games. I'd be like my friend who's so into Melee that she basically disregards every Smash game that isn't Melee or a Brawl mod that plays similar to Melee as being "shit."
What happened at that match was inevitable. There was always going to be a point where someone made it to a major Smash final - doesn't matter which game - and proceeded to make an utter farce of the event. I've always believed that. I'd even argue it needed to happen. I won't try to get too deep into why because I'm not great at wording my beliefs in a way that truly conveys how I feel (and without inadvertently pissing someone off, hello Smash megathread), but long story short I always felt that there was an air of unprofessionalism and entitlement bubbling under the surface with eSports, and competitive Smash in particular. It's why I've never liked it. But I felt that the only way anyone involved would ever listen to such worries was for them to finally boil over on the biggest stage imaginable, because that's the one thing that I knew the comp scene couldn't ignore and that's what would finally get everyone talking and take a good hard look into taking this seriously (which goes beyond just playing "seriously"). And now it happened and now people are talking. So that's good. Let's see where this heads. Gotta admit though, even I didn't expect it to be actually be at the truly biggest stage imaginable - the EVO grand finals - of all places. Plus I have to confess I do find the whole thing funny. Especially with Lima actually doing the Bayonetta dance and blowing a kiss to the audience at his trophy-get ceremony. That was primo entertainment, especially when it twisted some folks' panties even further.
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