• Inside the culture of sexism at Riot Games
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https://kotaku.com/inside-the-culture-of-sexism-at-riot-games-1828165483
I read this earlier today, bro culture in any company pisses me off so much, it's really sad how rampant it is in the games industry (and many others). Also if they want their employees to be hardcore fans of their famously toxic game then obviously that's gonna attract some shitty people, what a silly premise.
This is about as bad as when Bill Cosby sued that woman for breaker her NDA for her rape after paying her.
lol isn't Riot one of the devs that were super into the whole "Gamers are misogynistic pigs" thing?
virtue signalling intensifies
What the fuck is it with the tech companies where their employees have so much downtime they can fuck around and talk about "penetrating" their coworkers? If I have downtime I work or my job is done I just fucking go home
its like that one xkcd comic about compiling time? Also lunchtime. And general work shirking.
The ones who do this the hardest are almost always the biggest perpetrators trying to cover their asses.
As a long-time player of LoL, it pisses me off even further since they're so slow to ever fix/update anything, and they only have one game to work on. So apparently they're all extremely lazy as well.
Yep, which is p amazing as the likes of Christina Norman would cheerlead from hell to breakfast about how different Riot was from everywhere else she worked including BroioWare, the bastion of listening to customers over corporate faux-progressive policy. Meanwhile legendary asshole Ben 'tragic' Cureton aka Fuck Customers Lead was literally hired under and promoted over her and she was fine with it. :imaginary handjob:
Most Riot employees are sjw fuckwits in social media. It's why I'm laughing that they've become the ones being thrown to the wolves.
Being Kotaku, I can't tell where the legit concerns start, and the hyperbole begins in this article. On one hand, this is pretty fucking scummy of Riot. On the other, some of the editorial remarks and claims in this article are just so baffling that they have to be bullshit.
There was a follow up from a woman who worked for six months at Riot, was contacted by Kotaku but was afraid to speak out against the company. http://meagan-marie.tumblr.com/post/176788011970/six-months-at-riot-games
What is it with tech employees and being unable to behave like an adult? It's like they never developed beyond high school.
I think it has to do with tech companies not wanting to be a "traditional workplace". It's pretty boring working in a regular cubical-centric office with a dress code and all that, but it's pretty effective in enforcing professionalism. Unfortunately, tech companies nowadays think they don't need a professional workplace so you get employees doing whatever the fuck they want, which always ends well.
Would you like to outline your issues with those characters?
I think a lot of it has to do with how gaming is a pretty new industry, so people in it are generally younger and less mature. I think gaming culture in general contributes too, as people can be pretty vulgar in games, not that it bothers me much, but I can totally understand why that woman's feelings of Riot's behaviour disturbed her from her writings in a post above.
Good god man. Even the kotaku article didn't stoop so low as to draw that silly conclusion like I expected them too.
I can respect not wanting an uptight, stuffy, overly professional workplace- but there should definitely be a middle ground between "boring office" and "basically fucking high school". Seriously, the behaviour described in that "six months at riot games" bit is the kind of shit I'd expect from literal children.
You know people just like to draw women and aren't instantly gross and disgusting perverts right? People just like to draw boobs. Since i know a number of people who tend to draw lewd shit constantly but most of the time are very liberal and usually normally functioning people who aren't sexist asshats. I wouldn't consider the art-style of the game as evidence of them being "Sexist"
@Qbe-tex I read the whole post but fuck trying to pick a part to quote. It's worth keeping in mind that the character art is meant to sell the character, but the actual models are very subdued in the game itself, and honestly the art's not exactly that "exciting". Stealing pictures off YouTube videos because I stopped playing back when the EUW/EUNE split happened, I tried to pick the worst case angle (tits to camera) for some characters, and other than LeBlanc, stuff's pretty tame. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/109818/a27c18e4-5b11-41c4-a08d-7b2da87f31ac/chrome_2018-08-09_21-07-19.png https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/109818/36190f23-9f02-4154-9e67-43a3ef97382f/chrome_2018-08-09_21-09-07.png https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/109818/521db9c5-13c7-436c-908c-632e29f8b705/chrome_2018-08-09_21-10-57.png https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/109818/09183516-7188-45c7-a9fc-0fc082e26206/chrome_2018-08-09_21-11-32.png The far-away camera, combined with the angle, allows them to pump up the character design for non-gameplay use, while they just look "eh whatever" in the actual game. I don't think anyone's spending 2 hours in the store looking at the background pictures of female character's skins while squeezing their hog. I'm going to assume they're using them at least somewhere prominently, probably character selection pre-game, and they probably don't accomplish much more than setting the mood for the next game. One thing I found interesting is that some of the Ahri skins use the tails to hide a lot of the character model, bit of a weird design choice.
Necrobumping instead of starting a new thread. Riot has responded with an apology. https://www.riotgames.com/en/who-we-are/our-first-steps-forward
They can apologize all they want, but I still get the feeling the boys club just went "okay, we apologized. can they shut up now?" Not to mention they're owned by Tencent. I wouldn't believe anything Riot says when the most infamous Chinese company has their hands up their asses like puppets.
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