• Google found to track the location of users who have opted out
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https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/google-tracks-your-movements-it-or-not-n900106?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
Big Shocker: No one can be trusted to not collect big data. More at 11. I swear to God, the sooner people realize we've taken our conveniences so far they're near on imprisoning us the better for everyone.
Don't think anyone should be suprised tbh I get location specific alerts even with location off, both on phone and in account
I'm not surprised in the slightest.
Hence why you still get the weather for certain locations despite turning localization off...
Here's hoping the EU goes after them. GDPR is supposed to prevent this, so the fact that Google has been pulling shit regardless should warrant some kind of response.
I wonder if the "don't be evil" slogan was a canary for doing this kind of shit
There is a difference between storing your location and using it, though. A weather app could check your location when opening it (either by IP or by GPS) and then continue using it with minimal affect on your privacy as that data is only in the memory of the app - relatively hard to access and temporary. This news article is more about whether it's storing your location (which it absolutely doesn't need to and is) than using it.
Yep. Governments need to start getting serious on data protection because companies are not fined or punished anywhere near seriously enough and they know it. The only way we can stop this is to be more severe in our prosecutions, just like how I think the GDPR allows up to 5% of the company's net worth to be fined.
Cant wait for the world to turn into a handful of giant corporations harvesting big data just for us to buy a product. Oh wait....
Now this is slightly off topic but it just jumped to mind: Why pay companies who scrape info off people to get targeted ads, instead of asking people what they're interested in. I'd rather fill in a small form to REALLY get proper ads than getting semi-fitting ads from what they think I'm interested in. And with that the whole industry on leeching and selling peoples interests would be done with.
Because the data they collect isnt only used for ads, a lot of it as sold as parts of large datasets to train AIs
Considering I serve in the military I'd be hella concerned if it wasn't for the fact that I just turn off my phone completely whenever I'm on-base or out in the woods.
Unfortunately I don't see the US clamping down on corps with anything like GDPR until its too late...
I have this feature left on because I'm often forgetful of where I've been + good arse saving measure I find. But if you opt out, you've opted out. There's no need to be put back in
Doesn’t location data on iOS go through Apple?
You're a minority if you'd like to fill in a survey/form, so the quantity of data would be (way) smaller The amount/type of data is probably more than most people would be willing to give up The data is not just used for ads Collecting data will always be more reliable since it's harder to lie by changing your habits than writing lies in a form/survey
Or to stalk you further.
Your phone can still get general location data from the cell tower you are connected to.
At this point maybe I'll just use an old classic flip phone
Not even the cell towers, they can tell roughly where you are by the nearby wireless networks.
Oh right, I keep forgetting that. I honestly don't know anymore if cop shows where they track old cellphones are just overreaching with the ammounts of way they can track you, or if you really have to dismantle your cellphone completely so that you're untrackable.
Yeah, I've kinda just given up on having any sort of privacy on my cell phone. I may as well just assume it's a botnet device and roll with it.
Its practically impossible anymore not to be tracked on some level unless you completely destroy your phone. Flip phones can still be traced to some degree by using 3 cell towers to triangulate your position. Triangulation is nowhere near as precise as GPS but it works well enough to narrow down your location to a few blocks if not more depending on the cell tower locations.
The issue is that from the corporate side there are a lot of mixed messages with the GDPR regulations. Specifically, a lot of the opting out and 'right to be forgotten' elements of GDPR are actually contradicted by some AML and CT regulations within the EU. It's a situation where I don't think the bodies that came up with these regulations are actually in communication. So essentially, as long as you can argue that you were retaining data for the purposes of preventing/detecting money laundering and possible terrorist activity it's pretty easy to dodge major fines. Hopefully the GDPR body just goes fuck it and proves a point, but ultimately a lot of the GDPR rollout was an uncoordinated mess that has left corporations pretty much free to continue as before Like my old company, we got the notice that we had to start deleting customer data upon request, but we were also required to hold onto data by the AML/CT regulations, so we just lied to customers and hoped for the best
Previously I've been using prototype Xperia Z3 (dont ask where I got it) for a year, and you can't even opt out of data sending in prototypes. That creepy feeling of your data being send directly to Google and Sony without restraint...
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