Youth gang torch cars in Gothenburg, Trollhättan and other cities.
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I have been trying to find an English source but here are some swedish ones and clips. If somebody can provide with a english source I'll update the OP with it.
Larm om flera bilbränder i GP
Flera bilbränder Göteborg och Trollhättan – GP
Flera bilar i lågor runt om i Göteborg | SvD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WiLf6DF4tA&feature=youtu.be
https://twitter.com/ZagrosHama/status/1029082019211309057?s=19
https://twitter.com/JJohanJJansson/status/1029091095823745025
This is just sad to see, that our cops see this as "youths doing bad pranks" when they obviously seem cordinated, matching masked outfits and doing this not just in several places in Gothenburg but also in my home town of Trollhättan. I work in Gothenborg and commute there everyday, my parents live there. This is all so god damn close. I had to walk all the way home due to the local bus home wasn't allowed to drive due to how bad stuff was in Trollhättan where it drives through.
That's Viking blood for ya. Sorry to hear that you're feeling unsafe though - I hope the situation improves.
sweden yes
So while waiting for an English source, who is doing this?
Sure does seem coordinated.
Picture from my hometown
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/133985/6b786a18-72b6-42f9-984e-df493fbc6bfa/image.png
And right now there has been no groups taking responsibility or so.
Really strange, I assumed Islamists or Far right protesters but is it all really this quiet?
Sounds almost like a new game on the internet or some shit.
Organized insurance scam?
why would you assume that
Sweden has huge problems with Islamists and crime.
According to what/who?
Sweden has a rising problem with immigrant crime that the government is trying to silence down, not necessarily Islamic crime per say but immigrant fueled at the very least. Thing is, not only does the government shoving their fingers in their ears and pretending that there isn't a problem hurt actual immigrants who are here to start a new legit life but it also helps the far-right rise since they can easily point out that not only is there a lot of immigrant crime but the government is trying to cover it up which confirms their paranoia and victim complex. If people start to legit acknowledge this and try to improve on it while letting immigrants who are actually here to do good into the spotlight we can slowly improve the situation back home, when people try to sidestep these problems to not offend anyone we just risk making everything worse in the end.
Here is a good article about it, source is center-left according to mediabiascheck with high factual reporting.
Sweden’s violent reality is undoing a peaceful self
https://i1.wp.com/mediabiasfactcheck.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/leftcenter03.png?w=700
I can guarantee that they're not even S of Swede
Are you actually being serious right now?
Yes? I don't take those claims at face value. Especially not when I live in Sweden and I've yet to see, either in our news or myself, anything that points to his claim being true.
Of course it isn't, people love hyperbole and sensationalism, but that doesn't mean that there isn't a problem. The things occurring in the video are fortunately far from a daily occurrence but you have to be incredibly naive to think that Sweden is completely fine as it is right now. Whether you like to see it or not, there is a huge group of people with a world view different from that of Sweden and most of the modern world, and a lot of them have little to no interest in integrating.
You have to be careful when you are being careful of lies and discrimination not to throw out very real problems that are happening. It's over sensationalized by SOME but there is a very real problem. The far right fight it so the news gets put down but the situation is still very much real.
I'm from Malmö and have worked in both rosengård, seved and kroksbäck. It's true that media blows things up in that it's not a war zone and you feel safe in most areas, but you have to be blind to think there isn't a problem with the culture in some areas there. I've personally seen so much shit happen and it's always either immigrants, antifa or in rare cases nazis. A few weeks ago when I visited I talked to my friend who were on the street in värnhem when some brown people did a drive by that killed 3 people.
We need police to go in and take back control of these areas, there is nothing else that will help. I've worked at kroksbäckskolan and seen the youth culture of fuck the police and race hate first hand. Teaching people that they are vitcims and building recreational centers is not the answer, the later is actually used as a place to recruit people to gangs.
Just because the situation isn't as bad as in say, the US, doesn't mean that it isn't a problem. If you ignore it just because media blows it out of proportion and it's not as bad as in some other countries then one day it will eventually escelate until it's too much of a problem to easily solve. By taking action when the problem is still small and manageable you can stop it from getting worse in the long run.
Problems with criminal gangs shouldn’t be ignored. The idea that it has anything to do with Islam is stupid though.
What exactly does "We need police to go in and take back control of these areas" mean? Are we talking about streets, city regions, cities, and what are the police supposed to do? Ofcourse shit like this should be taken very seriously and the fact that there's friction between foreigners and swedish people is real, that there's friction between different groups of foreigners too - integration is key to successful immigration. You gotta be careful not to antagonize the people you want to integrate, unless ofcourse you don't actually want that. You say that building recreational centers is not the answer, but things like that are part of the answer, how else are you gonna help the outsiders become part of society? On the other hand, making sure that police has the resources and authority to deal with whatever issues come up that are relevant to them is also part of the answer.
Do you atleast have a link to the tweet?
They need to patrol the streets to make people feel safer, talk to the people who live there to combat the hate for the police and when something happens they need the resources to actually do something and clamp down on people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxmnCXjM5iU
As to the media thing, I understand that it seems like I'm contradicting myself in the other thread. There is a huge difference between how this is covered nationally and how it's covered internationally. Swedish media and politicians are in many cases acting like everything is fine and sometimes even hold Malmö as an example of that multiculturalism works, which is crazy. On the other hand international sources call Malmö a war zone and say the gangs have taken over the whole city which is just as crazy.
I question this so much. Why would criminal gangs, who's main source of income is the drug trade, want to torch a ton of cars to "threaten" the population? The only thing they'd do is bring trouble on themselves as more cops will be in the areas, thwarting their operations?
Asserting dominance.
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shits fucked
I thought only the French were passive about these things but I guess not.
All three arrested are previously convicted of crimes like petty drug offenses, robbery, possession of loaded firearms, assault and gross assault.
Not really hard to guess what kind of kids these are anymore lmao
Nobody can say for sure, but I think we can assume with about 98% certainty that this was the work of the Danes
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