Young Americans are rejecting capitalism in huge numbers following Bernie... - Polidicks

https://www.newsweek.com/capitalism-young-americans-bernie-sanders-1071146 In the two years since Senator Bernie Sanders’s campaign for president, the image of capitalism among young Americans has taken a dramatic hit, a new poll has found. Less than half, 45 percent, of Americans between the ages of 18 and 29 have a positive view of capitalism, according to a Gallup poll released Monday.

I'd take a liberal capitalism over laissez-faire economics or socialism any day. Social democracy is fine but Socialism is absolutely stupid

Is anyone actually surprised by this?

Liberal capitalism is laissez-faire economics.

Not the european usage of the word liberal, the american usage of it. Taxes to pay for social programs and shit

I feel like as you grow older you become more capitalist, you start becoming self reliant and don't act like the world owes you everything.

"But people die under socialism, also Venezuela!!!" Just because you have free education and health care doesn't make it a 'Socialist' economy.

The only reason why those 'self reliant' baby boomers soak up the majority of the social welfare is because if you when try threatening it they scream and jump in front of cars. And then turn around and call us entitled.

They aren’t rejecting capitalism though, just the American way of doing it. These new wave dems aren’t proposing socialism and the distinction is really important.

I think it's less that they feel entitled to free stuff, and more that these days we act like wanting a living wage and some healthcare are "entitlements". I've said it before, the new generations are growing up and learning about wealth inequality and how the government is complicit in exacerbating it. They get to work for wages that haven't increased since the 80's at companies who have been making record profits every year. They lived through the 2008 crash and saw bankers who should have been going to jail were instead being reimbursed with their tax money. Plus with how ISP's and Insurance openly try to scam you and rarely face repercussions, yeah they're going to hate big companies.

I guess people tend to become more complacent as they grow older yes but I wouldn't put it the way you did.

That's because the ones that the system fails die early preventable deaths.

do you know what laissez-faire means

Yes, and that's why I said I'd be for social democracy but not socialism

I'd argue that older people may feel more self-reliant, but that's only because they'll have likely experienced some promotions at work by that point as well as likely being able to have afforded a mortgage that wasn't ludicrously expensive due to how every generation after the baby boomers has had to put up with worse and worse housing affordability and wealth inequality generally.

This is seriously not a joke. The political system favours the well-enough-off because they're the ones who survived to adulthood and can afford to promote policies that benefit them. There are few 50-somethins politicians fighting to reduce poverty among the poorest of the poor because most of the poorest of the poor die prematurely and don't survive to become politicians and advocate for the betterment of the next generation of ultra-poor. And if they do survive, they typically don't have the spare cash to engage in effective political activism. Without a robust social support system, the very foundations of democracy itself fail to protect the most vulnerable in society.

The American usage of the word liberal is too vague and meaningless when you try to describe something like capitalism with it. Communism and Anarcism seeks to abolish capitalism while Social Democracy seeks to improve it.

Then lets go with social democracy. I'm for improving capitalism, not abolishing it (socialism, communism, anarchism)

Hey personally I agree. I just think the way to go about it isn't forcing someone across the country to pay for it. People shouldn't be forced to give more money to the health industry. Making healthcare "free" for everyone isn't going to change how much a hospital charges and gets paid. Its just going to move the cost onto everyone else around you. The health industry needs to become heavily regulated. That way the can't charge you 5000% of the cost of the procedure and you can actually afford to pay for it.

Just like our government has 3 branches of government to keep each one in check, I think the same can be applied to economics. Capitalism, Communism, and Socialism, all 3 in part, keeping each in check. Otherwise, 300 years down the line, as we are now, it's like a game of monopoly that's been going for hours and you just showed up to be dealt in, good luck

I feel like a lot of people don't know that market socialism is a thing

social democracy is a bandaid fix that gets eroded away over time, look at the new deal and what happened to that money is power and when you allow people to accumulate ludicrous amounts of it under capitalism, they start flexing that power onto the state, through lobbying and media control.

I feel like it's the best we can have without brutal revolution and killing all rich people.

More like the older you get, the more you take the government for granted. Remember that Mitch McConnell probably would have died or would be living in an iron lung if it wasn't for the government.

Im convinced they’re using this wording on purpose to make it look like the people who want to reform the Democratic Party are just a bunch of crazy communists.

More like, the richer you become, the more capitalist you start becoming. After all, if you're rolling in cash and directly benefiting from capitalism, of course you wouldn't see it as an issue.

Come on now.... you know that's not a fair comparisons. Libraries fire departments and roads are all government owned. If you compare it to how it is now it would be like if a library charged $1000 to check out a book because they could. Your solution would be to have everyone foot the build so you could afford, it rather then put heavy regulations on it.

"Liberal" capitalism is still laissez faire capitalism. Your Democratic party are still laissez faire liberals, shown by the fact that they recently began reaccepting fossil fuel funding. The fact is that "progressive" liberals are still capitalists.

The problem isn't capitalism. The problem isn't any system. The problem is the rotten apples of society that live only to fuck everyone else over by taking advantage of people's moral and ethical values by being as corrupt and scummy as possible, purely for their own enrichment.

I've honestly had a really hard time picturing socialism. I just can't picture how it would work and function, for say mining activities. Not that I'm against it, I just don't fully understand it yet. I need to read up on it more and find examples. And I mean socialism, not social democracy.