Apparently Hillary was the one who colluded now except she actually was
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Russia Investigation: It's beginning to look as if claims of monstrous collusion between Russian officials and U.S. political operatives were true. But it wasn't Donald Trump who was guilty of Russian collusion. It was Hillary Clinton and U.S. intelligence officials who worked with Russians and others to entrap Trump.
That's the stunning conclusion of a RealClear Investigations report by Lee Smith, who looked in-depth at the controversial June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between officials of then-candidate Donald Trump's campaign staff and a Russian lawyer known to have ties with high-level officials in Vladimir Putin's government.
The media have spun a tale of Trump selling his soul to the Russians for campaign dirt to use against Hillary, beginning with the now-infamous Trump Tower meeting.
But "a growing body of evidence ... indicates that the meeting may have been a setup — part of a broad effort to tarnish the Trump campaign involving Hillary Clinton operatives employed by Kremlin-linked figures and Department of Justice officials," wrote Smith.
Smith painstakingly weaves together the evidence that's already out there but has been largely ignored by the mainstream media, which have become so seized with Trump-hatred that their reporting even on routine matters can no longer be trusted.
But he adds in more evidence that the Justice Department only recently handed over to Congress. And It's damning.
Memos, emails and texts now in Congress' possession show that the Justice Department and the FBI worked together both before and after the election with Fusion GPS and their main link to the scandal, former British spy and longtime FBI informant Chris Steele.
As a former British spook in Moscow, Steele had extensive ties to Russia. That's why he was picked as the primary researcher to compile the "unverified and salacious" Trump dossier, as former FBI Director James Comey once described it.
Steele's dossier, for which Fusion reportedly received $1 million, was largely based on interviews with Russian officials. And who paid that $1 million? As we and others have reported, it was Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee, then under Hillary's control.
The media knew all this, of course, but largely ignored it.
The great irony here is that, after more than two years of investigating, the only real evidence of collusion with Russians at all points to Hillary Clinton. It was she who hired Steele to dig up dirt on Trump using Russian sources.
But now, it turns out, it goes even deeper than that.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russian-collusion-hillary-clinton/
I don't even care if rules are against it now, that site is absolute dog shit. Extreme right with a history of outright lying.
Investors Business Daily
the article mentions RealClear Investigations https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/real-clear-investigations/
It's rated as trustworthy for facts and has a much more center leaning.
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/08/13/trump_tower_meeting_looks_increasingly_like_a_setup.html
"hillary clinton colluded with the russians to give trump the damning evidence of hillary's emails that lost her the election"
how fucking retarded do you have to be to believe this?
So the source is saying now that the clinton funded campaigns and the fbi set up the trump tower meeting to frame clinton. Do you not see how dumb that sounds.
The second line of evidence reframing the Trump Tower meeting -- after the Ohr-Steele-Simpson correspondence – was first reported in June by RealClearInvestigations. It shows that, starting in March 2016, FBI confidential sources and other figures associated with Western intelligence services and the Clinton campaign approached the Trump team promising damaging information on Clinton. The Trump Tower meeting appears to have been the most successful of these approaches, since it was the one instance where the Trump campaign signaled it was willing to receive incriminating information on its opponent.
The entire article is conspiracy bait with them basically shrugging off the tower meeting with "lol we don't know what happened up there" but then turn around and draw connections like that fox news web of intrigue about how the deep state baited trump into getting russian help.
According to Trump, Hillary was the one who colluded with Russians, and also according to Trump, 3 HOURS later, It was Hillary who started the investigation into Russian collusion
Soooo....
Wut?
https://i.imgur.com/uNSyFFm.png
elder god tier source
if you believe this then you have no excuse not to believe that Donald Trump is a KGB Sleeper Agent.
both have the same amount of support
Having sources inside Russia = colluding with Russia? Holy shit the USA was colluding during the entire Cold War
Why is trolling no longer bannable?
You can't really apply media fact check to real clear, as it's simply a news aggregator
Now if you look at the authors posts the site has, nearly all of them have been whining about the Russia investigation getting disproven by some secret documents or something.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/authors/lee_smith/
Lots of writing by them for right-wing sources too like the federalist and American Greatness.
So yeah, crap source
This is jews are inferior but also control everything tier logic
What if Hillary knew how bad being president is and colluded so the Russians would STOP her being president - then she can rule from the shadows while Trump's loud mouth comments help the jewish communist islamic feminists gain power. I have evidence of this in a white paper I'm typing up as we speak, I'll fax it to @Bee York for proof reading 1st.
Russian Jews are involved now? Gotdamn maybe we need to get Germany involved in this investigation
The fact that you not only wasted our time with a garbage source, but also editorialized the title of said garbage source for the sake of mocking an earlier thread is pretty pathetic.
Oh man a right wing poster who's probably trolling.
You the tuddliest tudd that ever tudd-ed, you tuddster!
but also editorialized the title of said garbage source for the sake of mocking an earlier thread is pretty pathetic.
uh-oh the fun police is here
You know, I could come up with a witty insult here about how pathetic it is, but you actually just make me think how typical. You don't know how to hold a constructive conversation so you just
resort to mindless shitposting and epic zingers the second you get called out. Like any other alt-right loser these days, looking for cheap thrills out of "owning the libs".
You're just boring.
well regardless of the source i'm sure you only had the most honest of intentions in posting it here
https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/979qpd/russian_collusion_it_was_hillary_clinton_all/?st=jku9ui07&sh=2b8dd505
oh wait hey would you look at that
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are you implying that i make anything other than mindless shitposts
Another quality Führeh Fox thread.
I think it's stunning and brave that OP is still participating in this thread that is clearly being brigaded by Deep State Shadow Agents under the command of Obama, who is operating within a bunker underneath Pennsylvania Avenue as we speak.
hahahaha are you unironically going 'i was only pretending to be retarded'
Realtalk, let's go through it.
For one, we can completely ignore the investors.com opinion piece since it's basically just a point-for-point retelling of Lee Smith's opinion piece at RCI in a more sensationalized language. Which either means OP wanted to stir up shit by going for a more propagandistic piece, or didn't read the sources the opinion piece listed.
The June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between high-ranking members of the Republican presidential campaign staff and a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties remains the cornerstone of claims that Donald Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election.
So now we can immediately tell from the first paragraph that he's being dishonest. The meeting itself is only one part of the investigation, not a cornerstone. We know, for example, that we became aware of the Trump's increasingly suspicious links to Russia in 2015.
A growing body of evidence, however, indicates that the meeting may have been a setup - part of a broad effort to tarnish the Trump campaign involving Hillary Clinton operatives employed by Kremlin-linked figures and Department of Justice officials. This view, that the real collusion may have taken place among those who arranged the meeting rather than the Trump officials who agreed to attend it, is supported by two disparate lines of evidence pulled together for the first time here: newly released records and a pattern of efforts to connect the Trump campaign to Russia.
Cool. The first of two sources cited is this link to an article on The Hill talking about emails unearthed of the Clinton campaign and DNC working with the FBI and DOJ.
It mentions "hundreds of pages" which provide the "clearest of evidence." The author then proceeds to show only four pages of documents, all of which are far from damning, don't contain anything that might incriminate or even lead to a path to maybe potentially start the process of incriminating anyone.
Ohr is set to testify about the mentioned contacts with Steele on the 28th of August, which is exactly why shite outlets are already concluding all kinds of things, while respectable outlets are waiting for more info.
Personally I don't give much of a shit about Steele, I care more about his dossier. The reason why people are taking every opportunity to attack Steele himself is because the Dossier itself has been shown to be impenetrable. Even if any of the investigations turn up paydirt, they don't change anything in the dossier itself.
Back to the article...
The second line of evidence reframing the Trump Tower meeting -- after the Ohr-Steele-Simpson correspondence – was first reported in June by RealClearInvestigations
It should be noted that the article he links to here was also written by Lee Smith, aka himself.
In that rabbit hole, he also sources himself
https://i.imgur.com/h5zHyMV.png
Leads to a Lee Smith article.
It's 3 AM, but isn't a quick gander like this already enough to discredit the journalistic credibility of the rest of the article? What exactly are you trying to do here, man?
can you please stop posting garbage, then posting half-ass attempts at defending it, then giving up entirely
like what is your goal here, to be regarded as a complete moron? to be the next tudd because epic attention?
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I should really stop looking at this subforum
Is your Tudd showing?
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Apparently Hillary was the one who colluded now except she actually was
