• Intel will show its first discrete graphics card in 2020
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https://twitter.com/IntelGraphics/status/1029792940648878080
So are we just going to get a dedicated integrated graphics card?
Didn't Intel try to enter the graphics market and end up shelving the product?
It might be a direct continuation of Larrabee project which was a completelly programmable x86 graphics card.
I wonder if it was the threat of a potential anti trust violation that they stayed out of graphics till now or they were just that myopic to not see the money to be made.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/561/21749924-d075-4092-bab4-92b97fbab244/Intel.png Ya, but not because of technical fidelity, only because Netflix wanted an Encryption Key embedded into your goddamn CPU's for decryption as DRM that only worked in Internet Explorer for quite a while, you insufferable troglodytes.
Who's looking forward to delidding their GPU to replace the Aquafresh with something less minty?
I hope it's good if only to drive down the prices of Nvidia cards
Yeah, and they killed Project Offset in the process and refused to sell the rights back to the original devs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDqT6aBxKNw I'll never forgive them for it.
The more competition the better, maybe graphics cards affordability will increase
blergh there's a lot to not like about this. I'll give Intel partial credit for having decent Vulkan support on their integrated hardware, at least (relative to what I'd expect). Wonder if they'll start shitting our propietary extensions and then effectively refusing to ever work with other IHVs on them, too. I want to see AMD really take off in the graphics market still, though. They're doing loads more for graphics developers than Nvidia does, especially if you're not a professional in that field. Lots of open-source goodies from GPU-Open, along with good articles and information and their devs have a nice Twitter presence too. Intel has done alright with some of their articles about graphics stuff lately, but their Vulkan tutorials have taken ages to publish and are still mostly "baby's first steps into ineffectively using this API"
There's limits to how good integrated graphics can be, without changing the memory system. AMD's APUs are already at that limit - pretty much everything is bottlenecked on memory throughput, that's why RAM clocks matter so much - and Intel's not far behind. Hell, they've got some extra-beefy chips (twice as many shader cores) that add an eDRAM L4 cache to try to keep up with the memory needs. If you want substantially better integrated graphics, something is going to have to change at a higher level. Moving to triple-channel or quad-channel DDR4 would help, but that's no small amount of die space, and with minimum DIMM capacities that also ends up being a lot of RAM you'd need to get full throughput. That also wouldn't get you too much a performance boost - somewhere around a GeForce 1050. Beyond that, you'd be better off putting GDDR* onto sticks and either using that as main memory (awful for the CPU) or having a full secondary memory system - and at that point, it may as well be a discrete card to help cooling.
Normally I would be hyped for this but the sheer fact that amd has actual stock coolers for the cpus and intel doesn't says a lot. its safe to say Nvidia will still be king.
And I love the idea behind that thing still.
Dude what fuckin century are you from? They've been using Colgate for years now.
I wonder if their GPUs will also have horrible security too
By the way, I have used a mix of Vaseline and toothpaste as thermal paste before. It actually works!
Eh, who wants to use stock coolers with the real high end CPUs anyways. They're probably not bundling them because most people toss them.
K series is meant for overclocking, nobody is going to overclock with a stock cooler.
whoa really intel was the first in all those things? i mean surely it had nothing to do with intel being the one who allows companies to use HDCP and similar, right? oh
https://youtu.be/-8RcciMnmOU they actually made one in the late 90's and it was dogshit compared to everything else I expect nothing less from intel
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/109738/c41af6ee-03c4-461d-b647-3ddfe5d98483/image.png I see your weird GPU, and I raise you a Voodoo 5
Maybe I don't want to overclock (or the custom cooler that i bought is fucking hard to install I still won't overclock regardless I'm too insecure) but I still believe a k version beats a non-k version any day (at stock speeds) its pretty much a damn rip-off, I would still prefer to get a "Official" easy to install cooler that actually does something than nothing and I've been told AMD has exactly what I wanted except all their CPUs are weak, what a shame.
Honestly if they did continue Larrabee it'd be one impressive card, purely because of how it works. It can practically run anything due to the nature of it, think GPU based virtual machine essentially.
for as bad as this thing sold it was still better than anything intel had. hell the voodoo 2 was better than the intel card. also I raise you the voodoo 5 6000 https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/213991/5d0a9d09-12d8-49ef-a911-e8b6d108478b/image.png 4 gpus and an external power supply, because fuck you
Don't buy an enthusiast CPU that is marketed and designed for overclocking if you don't know how to install an aftermarket cooler. Oh yeah, it was killing cards at the time it was released. They're so cute with their little fans. AMD adopted the "more cores" philosophy from Voodoo, what legends.
I agree, if you're over clocking you should get a better cooler, but you can overclock with the stock AMD cooler on ryzen
oh, and it also required an external power supply if your psu didn't have enough power on the 12v rail some prototypes didn't even have the internal power connector that one has
That's great and all, but here's the Bitchin'Fast 3D 2000 https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/657/91bdc3a6-4d80-4b43-8d17-f597523496ae/image.png
This thing is a monster, look at that benchmark results! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmCEXbspWuI
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