Couple Bikes Through ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’ and get killed
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https://www.pluralist.com/posts/1824-millennial-couple-bikes-through-isis-territory-to-prove-humans-are-kind-and-gets-killed
this is a special kind of stupid
Had to check if this was a news parody site.
also lol @ the author of this article emphasizing that they are MILLLENNNIAAAALLS
this is old hat at this point, millennials arent kids anymore, get a new gimmick hacks
I actually ran the site on mediabiasfactcheck because of that and was surprised to find that mbfc considers the source left biased. I'm so sick of hearing the word "millennial"
Wasn't aware ISIS controls Tajikistan. Quite the march.
Their first mistake was to think ISIS members are humans.
crap source
Yeah, the use of millennial in the title initially convinced me their was either a far right news site or a parody.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/07/world/asia/islamic-state-tajikistan-bike-attack.html
here's an actual one
i couldnt find shit but right wing blogs when i googled the story, i thought it was parody initially as well. I guess google thinks im really into infowars for some reason
Full quote:
“You read the papers and you’re led to believe that the world is a big, scary place," Austin wrote.
“People, the narrative goes, are not to be trusted. People are bad. People are evil."
“I don’t buy it," he continued. "Evil is a make-believe concept we’ve invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans holding values and beliefs and perspectives different than our own... By and large, humans are kind. Self-interested sometimes, myopic sometimes, but kind. Generous and wonderful and kind.”
To call them naive is disingenuous, as is the idea that they went on this trip through this country specifically to prove a point.
"I’ve grown tired of spending the best hours of my day in front of a glowing rectangle, of coloring the best years of my life in swaths of grey and beige,” Austin wrote on his blog before he quit. “I’ve missed too many sunsets while my back was turned. Too many thunderstorms went unwatched, too many gentle breezes unnoticed.”
They were on a trip around the world for their own sake, not to prove a point of world peace.
There were also two other victims killed in the attack, it's not like they were alone in some utterly mad trip through the country. They did take a risk that was clearly a mistake though. It could have gone down differently, but it didn't and now four people are dead.
I'm guessing they were doing something like this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippie_trail
Title makes it sound like they were cycling through Syria. Tajikistan has the same State Dept travel advisory level as the UK, it's not somewhere you would completely avoid going due to terrorism
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/travel/were-the-american-cyclists-killed-in-tajikistan-naive-for-traveling-there/2018/08/14/f8212ca8-9b36-11e8-b60b-1c897f17e185_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d09c167bde49
I like how some are complaining about the use of the word "millenials," when I've seen plenty of people still talk about "boomers."
Who cares. You're feeding into it by complaining about it.
They were apparently killed very close to the border as well, and in the video source of the alleged attack you can see plenty of other cars on the road.
none of the -stans are that great for americans to be wandering around in.
This is a very misleading headline. They were not biking through "ISIS territory." There are no real ISIS territorial holdings in Tajikistan. They happened to be killed by some dudes who pledged allegiance to ISIS.
It's not as though they looked at a map of ISIS territory and were like "like bike through there, our love will stop the bullets." This is more "gosh dern hippie millenials" baiting.
They think the same about you
Can't wait for this to be endlessly cited as the new example of the "religion of peace" and how liberals are idiots for trusting Muslims.
lol at the emphasis on vegan too
It looks like one of those "news" sites that is essentially a collection of blogs. Scrolling through it you can find plenty of right-leaning articles. They even have a section called "From the Right". The authors LinkedIn says he "blogs" for the site.
I was gonna quote what you just posted, it felt like a bunch of ~2deep4u~ nonsense in which they wanted to do something so they can come off as more enlightened.
I feel for their families, I feel for the couple as well because being ran over and stabbed to death is extraordinary violent event. But, you seriously cannot be surprised by what happened - You went to a well known terrorist occupied area know for violence against foreigners.
Some conservatives have framed the tragedy as a cautionary tale about not just the perils of travel but also naivete in general. In their telling,an overly generous understanding of human nature is behind much of today's progressive movement, including calls to radically scale back immigration enforcement and policing and support for socialism.
Some liberals, for their part, might view Austin and Geoghegan as martyrs in the struggle for a better world, or simply as unfortunate. Experts on told the Washington Post, "Central Asia generally is fairly safe."
Laying it on a bit thick aren't you bud.
Stan's my boyfriend and I'm in him all the time. You're spreading homophobic propaganda.
This really bummed me out
I'm like 90% sure that most anti-millenial pieces these days are authored by millenials
quick google check confirms this case at least
It's an older hat than you think. Shitting on the newer generation. Dates back in written history at least 2000 years
Unfortunately, the article in the OP seem to have given a wrong impression, the one in NYT gave a better explanation.
I've met many travelers as a host with Couchsurfing, and some friends had traveled through central asia, I've met a dutch friend who recently went through Pakistan.
I think it could had happened to any other foreign travelers, its just unfortunate that they were the target. Honestly it could had been separatists in southern thailand that killed some tourists, or like Islamic extremist kidnapping and beheading foreigners, it wouldn't get the same traction solely because it wasn't ISIS (which in this case, probably made for a juicer story)
Well I'm sure they have prior knowledge about this area.
Like even though I'm well aware of Islamic extremism being an issue I wasn't aware it was an issue in Tajikistan.
It's so sad how bad central asia has gotten.
thats normal
what isnt normal is the caricature of millennials that right wing people love to play up, they're still pretending they are awkward hyper progressive teenagers, when most are in their late 20s now and some are even over 30 and have children and no doubt probably have political and social beliefs now that barely resemble their teen years, as most people go through. And curiously, while shitting on the newer generation is indeed an age old tradition, we now have the distinction of people from the same generation being derogatory towards their own generation while pretending they are somehow cut from a different cloth.
Consider paul joseph watson. Hes 36 years old. Born in 1982. He IS a millennial, all his coworkers and friends are millennials, but he pretends like hes a baby boomer or gen x. its absurd, this dude spent his formative adolescence in the 90s.
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