https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD2briZ6fB0
i genuinely had no idea the incels were this far gone
I have to say Contrapoints definitely has to be one of the best people to talk about this issue, not only because she's experienced both sides of the dating game as well as her much similar experience with the trans community. Glad she made this, she's one of the few people who can break into and sympathize with the Incel mindset and yet reach just about everyone.
I still sit in disbelief at the existence of the whole incel thing.
Like, man. What insanity.
rampaging mental illness is a bitch. I don't even know how an incel would get help at this point after labeling themselves an incel.
the "I BAKE BREAD BUT I"M UTLRA MASCULINE, IT'S SCIENCE" bit was so good, how are theses dudes real lmao
making your own bread is fucking cool stop being self conscious about it you asbolute goof
why is that man wearing makeup
are you going for the laziest edgy bingo card or did you not watch the video, coz she openly talks about being trans in it.
Nice transphobia there, dude.
Incel spotted
That was great. I've dipped into articles about this subculture before but this is probably the best summary I've seen.
what the fuck are you doing
Even if she wasn't a woman, what's wrong with makeup?
Because makeup on a man makes you look GAAAAAAY.
Very interesting like any Contrapoints video, but one of the points resonated in particular, and this seems like a good time to get it off my chest.
Every so often, for the past half a year or so, I'll spend an hour at a time looking at the most vicious man-hating radical feminist writing I can find. It's the kind that says men are violent and misogynistic by nature and can never be fixed. Looking at this stuff is very hurtful to me, but it's addictive in a way that's probably similar to what Contra mentioned.
It's usually radical feminist subreddits, the posting history of women on there, searching "male", "men" or "#maleviolence" on Twitter, googling for "lesbian separatism", anything that makes me feel miserable about myself. I usually have no attention span for reading long blog posts either, but if I find some really blistering and fatalistic ones about male nature, I just can't tear myself away. I'll read the whole thing and all the supportive comments word-for-word. Then I stare at that single page for a good while, thinking how disgusted the posters would be to speak to me. I have good weeks and bad weeks in terms of avoiding these spirals, but it only takes one angry "men are trash" tweet and it happens all over again.
I've started to absorb this viewpoint that I'm not fully human, that no man is, I could never be as kind or empathetic as any woman, I'm a danger to women, my low self-esteem is the only thing stopping me becoming an open misogynist, there would be no place for me in a fair society, and I can never hope to be better because this is in my genes.
It makes me feel fatalistic about myself and others. I've started to view myself and other men in a poor light. If I see a man making a case that men can be human, I view it as self-serving and desperate. If I speak to women and they're nice to me (which is 100% of the time), I feel they're giving me undue kindness, or that they don't know me well enough and would hate me if they did. I realise how hypocritical that is, to think I know better than women, but there it is.
The hurtfulness and the hopelessness, and the addictive factor of it; it sounds so much like the "digital self-harm" thing described in the video, that it's definitely food for thought.
Apologies for the non-incel tangent.
Can someone explain to me what the fuck this means cus i have no clue ay lmao
"There's apparently an entire subgroup of incels who think the reason they can't get girlfriends is because someone aborted the one and only fetus that would have grown up to have low enough standards"
The former, based on post history.
On topic though, nobody can make me cringe like contrapoints, and I love her for it.
If I'd have to guess, I'd say they're convinced that nobody is willing to date them because all the potential girls that would were aborted by those damn feminists.
Jesus christ
As much as I'm convinced I'm gonna die alone I'm glad that I'm not on the same level as people that unironically believe in this meme
Umm, don't you mean feminoids???
I'm pretty sure this is being taken out of context
I've seen a bunch of these "ideal GF" memes posted on facebook, and usually they fall into one of two categories: 1. super exaggerated stereotype, something like "goth GF" or "stoner GF" or whatever, or 2. weird/abstract/meta, ones that play with the format by using something other than the type of thing that would fit into the first category for the sake of juxtaposition, so something like "cthulhu GF"
I don't think there's actually supposed to be a point behind it, I think it's just supposed to be weirdly amusing to see something so edgy and odd presented as a "type"
"Nobody watches her videos?" She has half a million fucking views on her Jordan Peterson video alone. What the hell are you smoking.
I guess that's why it's kind of really nice to see her, much like Shaun and Three Arrows, because someone is finally firing back and coming up with actual reason and discussion against those "own the libcucks" crowd who always fall into the same stereotypical gaps in logic. There's just so much of this shit on youtube and it's actively having an effect on how people think, so someone has to be there to dissect it and tear it apart for the bullshit it is. And people are watching it just as much as they're watching the right-wing anti-left videos, so it's working.
This is a really good video. Certain aspects of the internet and, often the whole of the internet itself, is honestly like a really addictive, really unhealthy drug. The appeal of the interactions it offers comparatively to what's experienced IRL is undeniable and palpable, especially if you're an introvert or have social anxiety.
There's something uniquely satisfying about how we communicate and interact online. There's no energy expended on maintaining appearances, making small-talk, or fretfully tailoring language. It's a place of no filters, where people aren't afraid to be themselves, and, by extension, can project who they want to be/really feel they are onto their online selves. That's a feeling that's hard to ween yourself off of because IRL social interactions can really get exhausting for some people, especially people who you don't know really intimately.
The darker side of that, though, is that the filters, judgments, and tacit rules of interacting IRL are ultimately reasonably important for moderating our thoughts, beliefs, and discourse. The veil of anonymity, even when not absolute, empowers us to vault ourselves into more extreme and emotionally charged ideas that are otherwise regulated by social rules and tact and, in the event of breaking those rules, shame and embarrassment.
This is even more potent nowadays in the age of tailored content and the algorithmic consolidation of online communities. This is what Contra's video did a really excellent job at portraying. The dogmatic influence of any relatively homogeneous community is inevitable and often poisonous. I find this particularly evident on reddit, where small echo-chambers are like petri dishes for cultures of ideological bacteria.
While famously noted on places like /r/braincels, where dissenting thought is expunged through either implicit or explicit rules and laws, I've also seen this dogma appear in trans communities, which was something I appreciated Contra picking up on. It's a brutally unpleasant reality that passing is a mentally entrenched principle directly tied to dysphoria/dysmorphia, and you really see both sides of the coin in different trans communities. Either unconditional affirmation and encouragement (which can border on creepy and predatory), or ruthless denigration.
Unfortunately, I think this sort of thing is just an inevitable and inescapable part of the internet as we know it. We should all be keen to limit our exposure to it and its darker side, but it can be hard to stay away from the forbidden fruit.
"She's basically the exact same as the "libcucks owned" crowd" how the hell can you draw that comparison.
A lot of of her videos are vulnerable introspection into what it means for her to transition. And the political ones cover general topics, delve into history and sociology, philosophy to explain the genuinely overwhelming political lanscape today. How is it anything like trash "libcucks owned" political content whatever that means.
Youre legit making that comparison cause you dont agree with her points and want to make her look bad. This is actully high effort stuff, if you dont agree with it then attack her points
you dumb
and you dumb
log off th'botha yas
cheers
What really convinces me that her videos are devoid of substance is the fact that instead of arguing literally any of her points you go for the absolute laziest and meaningless insults and comparisons.
You give your own opinion a lot of weight if you think Contrapoints doesn't get viewership
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