Australian Political Crisis 2018: Most of the front bench goes walkabout - Polidicks

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-23/live-peter-dutton-poised-to-challenge-malcolm-turnbull-again/10155008?section=politics Turnbull may stand aside, Scott Morrison may run and Dutton will probably win.

And to think they won off being a stable held-together party. What a circus.

What's with Aussie land and their unstable governments? As an outsider looking in it feels like this happens every couple years.

bc we cant make up our fucking minds

Matthias Cormann seems so instrumental in these Liberal leadership spills. He was Tone’s lieutenant before switching allegiance to be Malco’s top man in the Senate, and now he’s dumped Malco for Scotty. I don’t know why he doesn’t run for a House seat and aim to be Prime Minister himself.

I would say it's more the Liberals can't make up their fucking minds where they want to be a moderately right leaning party or go full on right leaning. They're so scared of losing votes to minor conservative parties some members are willing to alienate their moderate voter base. Either way they've screwed themselves pretty badly with this in-fighting and are probably gonna tank hard if an election is called. Also keep in mind this was the party that came in after bagging the previous government for doing the same thing.

There are internal struggles in both the Labor and Liberal parties - left versus right in Labor, and small-l liberal versus conservative in the Liberal party. Eg Gillard was from the left faction while Rudd and Shorten were from the right in Labor, and Howard and Abbott were from the conservative faction while Turnbull was from the small-l faction in the Liberal party Problem is, Australians can often choose between Labor and Liberal, but don’t have as many opportunities to choose within each party. The influence of each faction changes over time, and at the moment, there’s a conservative revolt in the Liberals.

Is mostly thanks for your closest thing of Australian 'Electoral college' version as Two-Party prefer method.

One Nation, Aus Conservatives and Centre Alliance are going to have a good election when it comes around

And now they suspended parliament for the day and won't be back until the 10th of September. Useless cunts

can't wait for the nob heads responsible for this to just step back and throw up their hands when the government is in shambles and achieves nothing for the next 6 months

Public service annoucment! https://i.imgur.com/VNKh6nh.jpg I hope the liberals get fucked over in the next federal election for this nonsense. But honestly, the labour party are no better.

The reactionary wings of the main parties (i.e. the hard left of Labour and the hard right of the LibNats) keep making plays for the leadership of each party because they're scared they'll lose votes to the Greens (Labour) and One Nation (LibNats). This then scares away the centrists and the parties freak about possibly losing the election before they doo the whole thing again as the centrists of each part regain power. If they had any sense they'd let the people run off to the wings and make political alliances when convenient to get things past parliment and the senate but both parties have been around for a centurary and don't like being in the twilight years of their parties.

Excuse my bluntness, but would you mind repeating that in English this time?

what a stupid ass government

Honestly, I’d rather have Julie Bishop out of the four contenders. But last time we had a female PM it ended horribly.

The last time we had a female MP, yes it ended horribly in some ways. But not because Julia Gillard was female. Just because Julie Bishop could become PM doesn’t necessarily mean that it would end horribly.

Dutton is like a worse version of Abbott. I'll take Bishop instead.

He actually has very similar views as Abbott. Tony is just slightly better because he actually bothers doing charity events in his downtime from being a gigantic prick in politics.

I just meant to say your Two-Party prefer method was or clearly still is reason why most Australians are still voting both parties all these years.

The ‘two-party preferred’ thing isn’t a voting method; it’s a statistical tool. It shows respective support for Labor and the Coalition after preferences for minor party candidates are exhausted; eliminating the influence of spoilers. The reason why Australia has a two-party system, despite having preferential voting, is because a) any system with single-member districts will inevitably evolve into a two-party system, and b) most minor parties in Australia are on the fringes and full of fucking idiots. Labor and the Coalition are quite sane, hence why most people prefer them.