Trump says flipping in the legal system should be outlawed. - Polidicks

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/23/politics/trump-flipping-outlawed/index.html "It's called flipping and it almost ought to be illegal," Trump said in the interview, adding he's witnessed similar scenarios over his decades in public life. "I know all about flipping, 30, 40 years I have been watching flippers. Everything is wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail and they flip on whoever the next highest one is or as high as you can go." "If you can say something bad about Donald Trump and you will go down to two years or three years, which is the deal he made, in all fairness to him, most people are going to do that," Trump said of Cohen, who he described as only a "part-time" lawyer. "And I have seen it many times. I have had many friends involved in this stuff. It's called flipping and it almost ought to be illegal." "He made a great deal. He was in another business totally unrelated to me where I guess there was fraud involved," Trump said. I guess saying you helped your candidate client commit electoral fraud is not news.

...Trump said of Cohen, who he described as only a "part-time" lawyer ah, there it is

Half lawyer, half coffee boy.

"He made a great deal. He was in another business totally unrelated to me where I guess there was fraud involved," Donald Trump said. Nevermind the plea deal that does everything short of call him by name. Of course going under oath is a perjury trap when you live in an alternate reality.

amazing that Trump managed to find a lawyer worse than Michael Cohen

I'm sure there's very few competent lawyers who would take the case tbh.

Oh so then their communications aren't covered by attorney-client privilege?

I know all about flipping, 30, 40 years I have been watching flippers. I have had many friends involved in this stuff. Did he just admit that for the past 40 years, friends of his have been prosecuted for organised crime?

tbh he's not entirely wrong but we all know the pretense is that he only thinks this way because it'll probably be his downfall

Yeah no, let's not get rid of an invaluable tool for dealing with organised crime.

Naw, what he actually meant is that he is a huge fan of pinball and if he was impeached, pinball would become REALLY BAD so don't impeach him pls.

It is so fucking beyond me how people can still defend this lunatic. I don't get it. He has, what, a steady 30% support overall? How? Fucking... how? After all of this, after all the indictments, after all the convictions, after all the shady deals, meetings, arrangements, hush-money payments - all of it. How? I've tried deconstructing every argument and nothing holds. "He represents the average working man!" - He borrowed a million bucks from his dad and is a billionaire. "He knows business and will create jobs!" - His companies have gone bankrupt SEVERAL times. "He's a faithful man who loves his wife!" - He's on his 4th marriage & paid money to silence pornstars he slept with. "He's going to build a wall to prevent illegal immigrants!" - A wall they can just climb over, or walk around, or fly over in a plane? "He's kicking out immigrants & criminals!" - He's detaining them in concentration-camps & separating kids from their parents. "He doesn't have a political filter!" - He's saying ignorant crap that causes the rest of the world to laugh at the entire country. "He's a man with rock-solid opinions & principles!" - When something doesn't go his way, he changes his opinion it instantly. "He's very strong on Russia!" - He consistently flirts with Putin, lifts sanctions & colluded to get a leg up in the election. "He employs the greatest people!" - 27 indictments, 7 convictions and the constant 'He/she was never really relevant'. I just... the list goes on, you know? How? The only two actual reasons I can see is "He isn't Crooked Hillary!" and "He's pissing off the libtards!". Is this how a democracy is supposed to be run? "At least he isn't the other guy" or "He's pissing off the people I don't like"? If it's at the expense of everything else - at least he isn't X or at least he's annoying to Y? Mueller, please hurry up.

They live in a different reality.

Every time I've tried talking to family members who support him, it's usually just stupid shit like "Well he means what he says!" I mean what I say too, but you don't see me getting elected to any public office. These idiots want a racist dickhead who will just repeat the things they want to hear and they want to say but are too afraid to in real life, out of social contract. He's the embodiment of the middle-aged, overweight, racist, ignorant Boomer moron who only wants to listen to whatever strokes their ego and makes them seem right. Which, said messages are usually fed endlessly to them from shit like Fox News, Breitbart, and Alex Jones.

Saul Goodman?

The law and order candidate, folks

"My word is law, stay in order."

Honestly, at this point, I'd trust Saul Goodman to be a better lawyer. At least he wasn't on TV yelling about how cooking meth isn't illegal if you're terminal.

No, see, you guys are misunderstanding. He's not saying flipping should be illegal altogether. He's just saying it should be illegal to flip against him.

Wouldn't be surprising, hes worked with people associated with the Russian mob on some construction projects, including a hotel in Dubai.

Lol what the fuck, I have no words to describe the stupidity of this statement.

Nah, flipping should be illegal altogether because people are flipping against him. Dictator Donnie is letting his true colours show more and more as he gets backed further into his corner by Mueller.

At this point I'm convinced that people who still cheer for Trump while knowing the shit job he's done are doing so out of some form of defense mechanism or pure apathetic ignorance. They see themselves as similar to Trump: an "outsider", a "person who speaks their mind", a successful big shot, and they vicariously live through him via what they watch and read. They see him as "one of them," they agree with his superficial points, and they probably voted for him. If they accept he's a colossal, corrupt, idiotic shithead, then through their logic that means they too were idiotic shitheads by believing in him, and they can't possibly admit to themselves or others that they are "bad," "stupid" or "wrong" for voting for/supporting/liking him. There's also the element of "he's anti-establishment" (even though he's firmly establishment), anti-foreigner, and anti-PC while the other party is the opposite, and since he's Red Leader if he falls Red Team falls. So, they continue to back Trump to avoid a hit to their ego. They earnestly believe he is right, that this is a smear campaign, that he's the best, because they see him as themselves, and they can't bear to be wrong. Their team can't lose, they an't lose, they can't be wrong. At least, this is what I perceive from the friends and family around me that still support him.

My best friend voted for Trump and for the first time since we knew each-other I've expressed how Trump's tariffs on Canada pisses me off. I didn't want to prod him too much but from our conversation he doesn't know a lot about how the world works and its history. For instance, I asked him if he at least thought it was sad that Trump was basically fucking USA's closest friend with the aluminum tarifs when everybody loses from it. He said he didn't know Canada and the USA had a long history of privileged trade partnership, cooperation and fighting together in the same wars and when pressed tried to minimize its importance. While he can't explain how all the decisions Trump is making will be good in the long term he just trusts him to make the good decision. I've shown him the absurdity of believing in the deep state, a nebulous conspiracy yet state "I'm not informed enough" when asking him why tariffs are a good idea when it's probably one of the easiest economic concepts to understand. My friend is a smart guy so I guess he doesn't want to put in the effort to understand what going on around him. *Shrug*

And that’s just it. It’s people too goddamn lazy to do the research and admit they’re wrong and, rather, try to reduce to importance of events or feign ignorance when challenged. These are honestly the worse kind of people to argue with. My father is exactly the same, very intelligent, but will dig for any counterpoint he can while giving up and walking away from losing points.

I could tell my friend was really restraining himself from using the usual right-wing rhetoric when I asked him exactly why X and Y Trump did was a good idea (since he's a good enough person not to insult or be snarky to a good buddy) and instead he just admitted didn't know much about it.

I assume a lot of his "support" comes from Republicans like my father. He doesn't actually have any particular love for Trump but because he's a republican he's got his support by default and all the negative coverage is just liberals trying to make him look bad. It's more willful ignorance than a concerted desire to have a racist in office, though even if forced to confront that fact they'd conveniently brush it off. Most conversations I've had with Trump supporters usually has them ignoring 80% of points until one comes up they think they can actually counter or just responding with "we'll I dunno, I don't really care about it that much."

lol this “flipping should be illegal!!!” thing is just in time for the National Inquirer flipping

Pretty much.

*covfefe of course he was only some guy he met once at a fundraiser not his lawyer for 30 years, just like manafort was some dude who managed something for a while not his campaign for over 8 months, and papadopalus was some nobody he never met not a senior member of the trump campaign staff who was seeking info from the russians directly