Lone holdout on Manafort jury blocked conviction on all counts, juror says - Polidicks

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/lone-holdout-on-manafort-jury-blocked-conviction-on-all-counts-juror-says/2018/08/23/72fcf926-a685-11e8-8fac-12e98c13528d_story.html?utm_term=.856717a0b73f Duncan, who identified herself as a supporter of Trump, is the first juror to speak publicly about the trial and the jury’s deliberations. She said the jury’s deliberations were tense. One juror, she said, would side with the majority at first, and later claim to have felt “pressured” and want to change her vote. “There were even tears,” Duncan said. She said jurors ultimately found consensus on eight counts, but could not move the holdout off her position. “We all tried to convince her to look at the paper trail. We laid it out in front of her, again and again, and she still said that she had a reasonable doubt, and that’s the way the jury worked,” Duncan said. “We didn’t want it to be hung, so we tried for an extended period of time to convince her, but in the end, she held out.” Duncan, though, was not laudatory of the special counsel’s prosecutors who handled the case, and some of her comments might give prosecutors pause as they weigh cases against other Trump associates. While Duncan said it was “pretty easy to connect the dots” after prosecutors’ presentation, she described the special counsel team as seeming “a little bored” during the proceedings.

I'm fully expecting prosecutors to retry him on those 10 counts.

And this is why the judge declared the ten other charges to be a mistrial and would be retried with another set of jurors.

It actually seems quite likely that they won't, since they already have the DC trial coming up where he could get another 15 to 20 year sentence anyway

A self-proclaimed Trump supporter ignores overwhelming evidence and favors her emotional gut feelings, and then when pressured by others, she doubles down on her original position. Color me surprised.

So much for "see, only 8 out of 10 counts, witchhunt!" 90% of the jury knew the dude was dead to rights with the last 10% sounding like they were more worried about daddy trump being in trouble.

The juror who's speaking out, and who identified herself as a Trump supporter, voted to convict Manafort. We don't know what the holdout's political affiliations is

No prize for guessing tho.

To set an example that it won't be tolerated would be the point.

I think it'll be important to retrial for those ASAP for both fully demonstrating zero tolerance for his crimes, and for the "masses" as well, considering how conservative media is spinning the mistrials.

Neat, we went from Stupid Watergate to Stupid Twelve Angry Men.

Rubles, that's their political affiliation.

This also explains why the jury asked the judge to define 'reasonable doubt'

I feel like the verdict is far more important than how long he goes away for in this case.

If I had money enough to bet, I'd bet that he's someone who was approached by Manafort's defense team and bribed.

she believed their true motive was to “get the dirt on Trump.” No fucking shit?

When juries are selected, they are specifically screened for potential biases that may compromise their ability to make an objective ruling. This is a huge bias and I have no idea how it was overlooked.

Maybe they were a good actor and slipped by to act as a lone saboteur. Who fucking knows, everything is all screwie anymore.

Arent they supposed to filter out this kind of shit on a jury?

One of the Jurors (not the lone holdout) was a die-hard Trump supporter who (still) thinks that the Mueller investigation is a "witch hunt" intended to unjustly attack a "great" president. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/manafort-juror-paula-duncan-manafort-guilty-mueller-probe-witch-hunt-n903201

I'm glad a trump supporter could be objective for jury duty. If only she could apply that to the rest of his positions, actions and deeds. Sucks about the holdout though. TBH I see it as a failure in justice when someone can basically ignore evidence "just cuz"

tbqh if you're serving Jury duty. It should be a requirement that you remain political neutral. Any attempts to brush aside evidence due to personal bias or ignorance should get you kicked off.

It is and if you're found to have lied to get on the jury because of it, you will be held in contempt of court and have the trial declared as a mistrial, costing the state thousands of dollars to do it again.

Jurys have always seemed like an awful method of judging guilt to me, why should a bunch of impressionable randoms decide something as important about someone going to prison?

There's a process called jury selection where both the prosecutor and defense attorney select jurors they both can agree to be unbiased to the case. Lying to get on a jury can get you held in contempt of court and thrown off the case at the very minimum. The judge also gives very strict instructions as to what jurors can and cannot do, lest they be held in contempt of court and have the trial declared a mistrial. You're expected to be unbiased towards the case and only judge based on what evidence is presented by the prosecution. I know this all because I was on a jury for a murder case a few months back and saw the whole process.

are you biased no ok :~)

Nononono, there’s much more scrutiny in the process than that!! are you biased? no are you sure?! yes ok :~)

You're under oath when they ask you that and if they catch you lying, you're fucked.

wouldn't want them to catch you with their brainalyzer now would you

Or just shitpost and have no faith in the justice system.