• What the Fuck happened to Hip-Hop with DMC from Run DMC
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPRmFJ_U8Ug
That was a really good video. Never heard of this channel before but I see they've got a lot more stuff like this, so it may be worth checking out.
I don't really agree with him tbh. A lot of the most popular hip hop artists today rap about more senstive topics than sex and violence and even then Hip Hop has nothing to do with police shootings.
The reason he brings up school shootings is because old hip hop had a lot more in common with punk than pop music. It was anti-establishment with a DIY edge and you saw a lot of punk and rap crossovers back then, some groups like the Beastie Boys even started out as a punk group before doing rap and kept that punk influence going throughout their whole career.
shut the fuck up honestly, he started off with an actual balanced viewpoint then he falls into the boomer/born in le wrong generation trash of "uhhhhh modern music is dumb lol" there's still artists who still cover these issues I mean like he said KENDRICK LAMAR ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR RAPPERS RN goes heavy into the political commentary, JPEGMAFIA does the same, like sit your oldhead ass down and accept that people don't wanna listen to it sometimes. also the death of funk music was more to do with whites actively pushing out non-white music and communities and replacing it with trash hair metal hip hop isn't stagnant you're just a mad old man
He doesn't just point out Kendrick Lamar as being one of the good modern rappers, he straight up mentions that there are still great MCs in the underground. His beef is mostly at the mainstream music industry who pushes simplistic pop-rap.
so like what the mainstream industry always pushed
I think the mainstream music industry has less power over hip hop than it used to considering that a lot of OG hip hop artists (Jay Z, Dr Dre, Kanye West sorta) have gone on to start their own labels. Or how streaming has enabled some artists (Chance the Rapper) to not even need a label.
Except Jay Z's label is a subsidiary of Live Nation and Dre's and Kanye's labels are subsidiaries of Universal Music Group. The only one of those guys who aren't part of the mainstream industry is Chance.
Maybe the idea that the mainstream music industry is pushing simplistic hip-hop is incorrect then?
Gucci Mane hitting #1 of Hot 100 with song where he literally himself, not with a repeated stanza, but with a repeated sentence five times and then quitting is a new low any way you slice it. Secondly punk and funk were very much alive and well, Paul's Boutique was being celebrated as some shit you needed to re-explore and George Clinton was headlining tours and MTV spots and Bon Jovi and Def Lepard couldn't get air time to save their life except at corporate junkets. "You kids get off my lawn/ back in my day erjerjerber" certainly has precedent, but modern hip hop is pretty bad compared to how wide and deep it used to be. It's cyclic and it's ebb and flow, but it's hard->er<- to find good hip hop thaty it used to be especially in mainstream venues.
google "backpack rappers" you have a million random artists that I'm pretty sure fits what you consider "wide and deep" you're welcome
Awesome goalpost shift bro, I epscially like the twist at the ned where the girl gets the girl instead of the guy, but you specifically cited two specific venues and mainstream reception thjerof and the most popular backpack rapper of all time became an actor to pay the bills cause he realized he was playing to people weren't gonna financially back his art with anything but lip service, kinda like what you're doing here.
the internet is a mainstream venue my dude
you lost any and all credibility the second you used the phrase 'oldhead' lmao
oldhead is a perfectly acceptable term you clown
it's almost exclusively used in a derogatory way to describe people who take any offense, no matter how small, to new hip hop to discredit them as "haha you just a stubborn oldhead dont like anything new xD" like come on dude
I think people also have the tendency to only remember the good stuff from the past. Bad hip hop artists won't have lasting power no matter when they were active.
boomers shouldnt talk abt hip hop like ever if ur opinions are boomer tier u owe me 5 bux
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Damn people getting called an oldhead really y'all in your feelings huh lmao Black Beatles had Guwop repeating himself?
I enjoy new stuff, but I just can't stand mumble rap. It doesn't sound like there's any emotion behind it.
it's sort of ridiculous to say that a genre gets 'better' or 'worse' over time after its formative years. metal 'got better' from 1970 to 1975 because it widened beyond the tiny pool of sabbath + budgie + priest + motorhead and the NWOBHM began, but after that no particular part of the genre's history has ever been, in a general sense (i.e. spanning over the entire pool of heavy metal), 'better' or 'worse'; there's the same amount of godly masterpieces that rise to prominence, the same set of things ranging from 'good' to 'hidden diamond' that sit underneath the surface, and the same number of absolute dogshit now as there was back in 1982, '83, '89, or 1992. and this is the same with every musical genre-- I just used metal as an example because it's the one whose history I know most intimately. the ratios of mainstream to great to good to shit are the same, always have been the same, and always will be the same; it's just that we become amazing at filtering out most of the unmitigable garbage over time, with the exceptions of things that are so intriguingly bad that they etch their names in history (see: the shaggs-- philosophy of the world is my favorite least favorite album) really, the idea of trying to slap 'good' and 'bad' on any given year of a larger musical genre's history in relation to another is primarily about human perspective, rather than an evaluation of the merit of the music within a vacuum, primarily in two ways-- either on the grounds of personal preference, or on the grounds of "the years I lived when I was young were the absolute best"
Kendrick, j cole, jay z, kanye, kid cudi, pusha t, chance, j.i.d., all mainstream artists who rap about good shit and use the medium as an art. When people ask about the hip hop today, just gotta bring these guys up.
wasn't that the whole point of rap to begin with? Last time i checked, the hard-core shit in the 90s was pretty much that. Rapping about the hard-ships of the black-communities.
shout out to milo
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