• Warning inscribed boulders called are surfacing in Europe as water levels drop
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https://www.businessinsider.com/sinister-hunger-stones-dire-warnings-surfaced-europe-2018-8?utm_source=reddit.com As Europe wilts in the sweltering, record-breaking harshness of summer 2018, strange things are happening. Mysterious outlines of ancient societies have revealed themselves across the seared landscape, but it's not just traces of ghostly architecture resurfacing. So too are grim words of warning. Inscribed boulders known as hunger stones are reappearing in the Czech Republic after a prolonged drought afflicting Central Europe, the Associated Press reports. These hunger stones traditionally sit below the waterline of the Elbe River as it flows through the town of Decin in the country's north, but with water levels hitting record lows in Europe, the rocks and the words carved into them have been exposed once more. In the current conditions, more than a dozen of the hunger stones can now be seen around Decin, recording the low water levels of years and centuries long ago — "chiselled with the years of hardship and the initials of authors lost to history," as described by the authors of a 2013 study on historical Czech droughts. The oldest and best known of these landmarks, known simply as Hunger Rock, according to Decin's tourist guide, contains an inscription that dates back to 1616, which says: "Wenn du mich siehst, dann weine," or, "If you see me, weep." While the oldest legible inscription on this particular Decin hunger stone is from 1616, the rock commemorates numerous droughts going as far back as 1417. A fellow hunger stone in Germany records the conditions that year in no happier terms: "If you will again see this stone, so you will weep, so shallow the water was in the year 1417." Others say things like, "We cried — We cry — And you will cry," and: "Who once saw me, he cried. Whoever sees me now will cry." The reasons for such ominous bouts of weeping could be numerous. When drought and heat came, it could signal not only a bad harvest but a lack of food and higher prices. And as the water level sank, river transportation became harder, threatening the livelihood of families living along the shore. With the Elbe now at its lowest level in more than half a century, the drought is also surfacing reminders of a different kind of misery: unexploded World War II bombs and hand grenades that have been corroding in this waterway for over 70 years. While scientists are still coming to terms with what the Northern Hemisphere's sweltering summer portends for the future, a more recent Czech inscription on the Hunger Rock at least tries to lighten the mood a little. "Neplac holka, nenarikej, kdyz je sucho, pole strikej," or: "Don't cry, girl, don't fret. When it's dry, just spray your field wet."
Was pretty bad in my hometown the past months, which interestingly enough is pretty much right to the Elbe as well. So much stuff in the garden of my grandma just dried out, they already used double the water amount then the same time last year. I only got a small glass of strawberry jam and little of what usually would be a couple of big glasses full of other stuff. I hope it was just this year this bad but I have the strong feeling this might be a regular thing soon.
It's funny we can give amputee's new arms, reverse cancer with radiation, vaccinate against illnesses that could easily wipe out entire villages of people, fly to the opposite side of the entire planet within near moments, put a flag on the moon, give someone new organs, clone animals, and even build massive sky scrappers capable of housing thousands as well as harness energy from the sun itself and yet we still can't stop nature from wiping us out. We have walls, transportation systems and artificial dams but we're still pretty fucked individually. We're just as weak as we always were
We're worse, at least we didn't used to be capable of destroying ourselves with our own technology. This is the fate of any species with unbalanced intelligence. The smart few will create brilliant new tools and inventions and the stupid masses will collectively use them to kill us all.
To be fair, we still have solved most problems in the better societies and create a better life for a pretty huge number of people So I mean, we're not total fuck ups
Well I mean something like this would previously have likely killed people, which isn't the case now
I think intelligence is pretty balanced, it's just that the dumb manage to be louder (especially online).
Add a new inscription "2018, ah shit see you next year probably"
I don't think it's necessarily louder so much as the dumb and/or apathetic vastly outnumber those who aren't dumb or apathetic.
I don't see any reason to assume that that is our gauranteed fate. No need to be fatalist.
That's why we have to fight back with huge chimneys and big SUVs!
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This was conservatives in the 70s I feel very definitely that the [Nixon] administration is absolutely correct in cracking down on companies and corporations and municipalities that continue to pollute the nation's air and water. While I am a great believer in the free competitive enterprise system and all that it entails, I am an even stronger believer in the right of our people to live in a clean and pollution-free environment. To this end, it is my belief that when pollution is found, it should be halted at the source, even if this requires stringent government action against important segments of our national economy. -Barry Goldwater Climate change, like every other political position in America now, is a zero-sum game. Conservatives can't support it because they would lose.
Fuck medieval germans were such fucking downers
"If this rock is visible for 15 months, you are legally allowed to leave."
Most what we CAN do is what is causing what we cannot do. Carbon emissions, industrialization and production, large population size from increasing survivability are all stuff that is pushing us to grow beyond what the planet can support.
Id wager its more of our oldworld economy that is based on limitless resources, which leads to pointless waste and inefficiency. You know the saying "they don't build them like they used to" that's literally true. From a business standpoint, why make something that will never break down or be outdated in a year or two, when you can make an all new product in 2 years that can surge sales all over again. If humans somehow pass the great climate changes, technology will be extremely robust and efficient while costing as least amount of materials as possible.
Oh the planet can support, but we need to give up on certain luxuries that were considered previously for granted breeding allowed only with licence where you live is determined via algorithm who you'll breed with is determined by algorithm what you do is determined with a brain scan (the only part we can't do at the moment)
If we lived under these terms and conditions, we wouldn't be living as humans.
As if any of us are at this point, the human mind is pretty flexible and if we can deal with modern society(a lot of long term consequences of stuff like the internet are yet to be discovered) we can probably deal with the dystopian nightmare that Vuu is describing.
Lmfao dude drop the eugenics crap. I'm totally for authoritarian environmentalism but it has to be in the way of stripping back luxuries not inhibiting the human spirit and method lol Here's a more... humane method: Ban all products that arent recyclable. Place a deposit akin to a bottle system for ALL plastic containers. Hold companies responsible for their actions and forcibly seize and deny trading unless they comply with the environmental regulations. Ban the production and distribution of ALL petrol & diesel transportation vehicles except for public transportation. Give people insentives for trading in their vehicle while each year raising the tax on operating a gas emitting vehicle. Close and recycle all coal plants. Dismantle the majority of the cattle industry. Research lab grown meat in large amounts. Give incentives to auto manufacturers to begin production of electric cars. Open up recycling factories which actively dig up landfills & process the waste back into the production pipeline. This includes plastics, old electronics and everything that has some form of use. Establish regulations for packaging and what's deemed acceptable for general use. Ban ocean cruises. Ban dumping of waste into oceans. Actively clean up the mess we've created in the ocean and feed into previously mentioned recycling plants Renewable research. Obviously I'm missing things and this is a pipe dream, but to secure the planet for future generations a slight guiding hand that aims to rebuild viewpoints of waste around one that's cyclical and sustainable while also holding companies that try to pass their waste off to a community level responsible for their actions is something that, not should, but NEEDS to be done. But lol money
It's already illegal to dump waste into the oceans. SOME countries, though, just ignore it and do what they want... Your ideas are good in a vacuum, but in reality our economy will ground to a halt without very slow implementation.
yeah what the global west is going to have to do is say "hey developing world, we know you've watched as we've partied insanely hard for the past 200 years and you guys are SO CLOSE to being able to enjoy what we had, but we overdid it. you guys need to stop or you're going to kill us all"
Do you think economic stability is worth more than the planet?
Economy falls apart, wars erupt, industry stops and population has a sharp decline, lowering demand for industrial goods Environment falls apart, resources dwindle, wars erupt, industry stops and population has a sharp decline, lowering demand for industrial goods Seems to me either way we go, we reach the same results.
Pretty sure economic collapse is more recoverable than an environmental one
The end result is wars and people living in misery.
There's a lot of mitigation and things you can still do on that list that can drastically reduce climate emissions.
Not necessarily, that's a big simplification of a while lot of variables and possibilities. If we fuck up the environment, that's not just wars, that's humanity going away
While this is an interesting look into your psyche, what's this got to do with curbing pollution?
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