California Net Neutrality bill passes senate 58-17 - Polidicks

Golden State passes gold California’s net neutrality bill SB822 has cleared another hurdle on its way to becoming a state law. The bill received a 58-17 majority vote from the state assembly following a heated debate and amendment process. Because some provisions of the bill were changed by the Assembly, it will have to once again be voted on by the state Senate before it can head to the desk of Governor Jerry Brown. Backers of the bill hailed the vote as a major milestone in the effort to get net neutrality legislation on the books in California. Sorry for not being able to embed the link. I thought there was a button for that when it's not automatic, but my stupid head can't find it... The bill still needs to go back around due to some changes, but the fact this version passed with such a huge margin is extremely promising. Let's just hope the governor isn't an arsehole about it.

FYI you click the link and the menu comes up

Nice one! Edited it now.

Looks like the senate has already passed the revised bill, it now goes to the governor for his signature.

What was revised?

I expect the FCC and some ISPs to sue. Republicans only like state rights when it benefits them.

If/when they do sue it sets bad precedent no matter what. If states can enact net neutrality regardless of the FCC red states will refuse to have it when saner people are in the White House and FCC. If they can't we won't have it every time there's a GOP president.

The State Senate didn't make any changes, they just voted and passed it. What I meant was that the Bill was sufficiently modified from the one originally passed by the Senate, so it had to go back to them for another vote. You can compare versions of the bill here.

I would love it if PA did this, hell just fucking put NN back while you're at it.

Which I imagine is what they want, because it means there are always going to be some opportunities to screw customers over, which means more chances to line their and their lobbyists' pockets.

YOU ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY --- NET NEUTRALITY = BIG GAY read this to increase ur mind looks like all of you dont understand what net neutrality means do you know what a free market is? here is an example of this same law being applied to an industry other than the internet to explain why u are all so wrong and in fact will not benefit from net neutrality this hypothetical example is 'food neutrality' each person of every household will be given 3 food stamps each day a single food stamp will resemble the amount of food to fulfill calorie requirements of that individual per meal this ensures everyone is able to live healthily every business will be required to accept a single food stamp in return of a meal regardless of the quality or quantity of this meal the business must abide by food neutrality law which states that the business cannot discriminate on the basis of a customers needs of calorie intake and personal preference no problem goyims, dont fall for their tricks, i got ur backs

is this satire

i updated it

That's a really dumb joke. But food neutrality would work more like this. Every type of food is available in every grocery store. The grocery store isn't allowed to make certain foods faster or slower to get, and can't stop you from buying any food you want. This lets small bakeries or whatever compete with big namebrand stuff, and they don't need to pay off the grocery stores for the privilege of a level playing field. This preserves the free market and gives the consumer more choice. If we actually had a choice of ISPs, then we wouldn't need net neutrality, but most people in the US only have one option.

Yeah, I'd compare food neutrality to something like bandwidth, so it takes a certain amount of 'bandwidth' or, rather, ingredients to make food, as well as other costs involved in production. Food neutrality would just mean they could not artificially increase the cost of any aspect of the food's production.

why would anyone shop at a small bakery if the grocery store had everything they could ever want at a cheaper price? this is illogical from my standpoint of preventing communism i need a further explanation to give u an answer properly for that u cant preserve a free market, this is ridiculous, firstly, a FREE MARKET has literally ZERO REGULATION -- aka FREE look, if i change the word regulation into -> restriction, then u will hopefully realise that when u are restricted you are infact not FREE a (((((((((( level playing field )))))))))) is literally communism/marxism/whatever form of jewish-derived conspiracy, u are seriously wrong with this

Dude, I was adapting your analogy to what Net Neutrality is, not suggesting that there's such a thing as food neutrality. Your posts are really terrible, by the way. Please refrain from meme brackets.

using ((( ))) is actually very relevant to political discourse, but it requires more indepth knowledge of israel and trump to be understood at a far ((deeper)) level... im using it solely to encourage the spread of it because by applying it to certain terminology and technicalities i can add depth to my arguments i have no clue what ur original adaption means then, i am intrigued though if u care to explain that more

Ajit is that you?

What the hell does this mean?

nope im from new zealand, its like america but differently shit and the similarly stupid

Given that both you and Boilrig come from New Zealand, I'm going to say significantly more stupid.

Ok so Israel commits lots of war crimes and the USA supports them regardless. As bad as that is, I don’t see how that has any to do with net neutrality.

never heard of him however my intellect is atleast of the top 0.001% of america alone

As a californian, thank god.

net neutrality is just another step towards their end goal of complete control of our lives their motives seem unclear but u must understand that every evil dictator is truly insane and cruel dont try to equate their actions to anything other than evil, they dont have ur best interest in mind if you believe these politicians care for the masses, you should first realise that trump eats mc donalds should u choose to believe a reasonable individual cannot be selfless especially towards strangers and those they detest you will know they certainly are obscene

Well, I think this post makes it abundantly clear you're trolling. Can we get back to the topic of the thread, please? You're derailing.

i certainly am on topic, net neutrality is extremely important to me, for it not to occur. atleast in my country if not urs

My point with the infinite grocery store thing was to make it a better analogy for the internet. For the most part, data is data. If you can connect to the internet, it's not physically more difficult to get data from one place or another, it only depends on the hosting of the website or whatever you're going to. Any ISP that can provide access to the internet can give you access to the same stuff any other ISP would, so the size comparison doesn't make sense. A smaller ISP would only be smaller in its number of customers and/or its speeds. Have you looked at history of the industrial revolution? That's the world without regulation. It sucks. The natural goal of companies without regulation is to seek monopolies. If there are monopolies, it is no longer a free market, or at least it gets rid of competition, which is the most beneficial aspect of free markets. That is where we would be without regulation. What we have now is the worst of both worlds, regulatory capture. Big companies controlling the government to put up regulations that benefit them, and to remove ones they don't like. There are a lot of laws on the state and local level set up to stop new ISPs from getting off the ground. That shouldn't be the case, in an ideal world we would get rid of them and we wouldn't need net neutrality, but ensuring all of these are removed would be very difficult, and there's nothing to stop more from springing up. That's not what net neutrality is. Internet prices varied wildly even while net neutrality was in place. Net neutrality would only stop ISPs from arbitrarily dividing data and charging differently for different data, even though none of it costs any more for the ISP or requires any different kind of equipment to process. Again, if we actually had a choice of ISP they could experiment more with their pricing without unfairly suppressing certain websites. As long as there's actual competition, companies that are pulling too much shit like that would lose customers.

Well this drew in the ironic shitposting awfully quick.