EU Commission proposes to abolish daylight saving time - Polidicks

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45366390

I wish the US would back scrapping it. People get all jolly about it "we get an hour more of sunlight!!" I see it as losing an hour of my free time.

It also damages trade in the long run, daylight savings time costs an insane amount to companies that rely upon any form of trade each year and this also hits the governments own pockets. It really should be abolished as it doesn't do anything good, also it has a negative impact on everyones health as it forces a body clock adjustment twice a year, people shouldn't be forced into this.

Thank goodness for Brexit. I'd be livid if I had to give up my Great British Summer Time to those beaurcrats in Brussels.

I worked for a company which wrote call center software. Sometimes a call center agent needs to schedule a call to go out automatically, like "the customer requested X service, so we're going to do it and then follow up with them on monday to see how everything is going". problem is , some of our customers were in like, Dubai, and THEIR clients were in America (which is how call centers work). So as an intern they asked me on like my first day to come up with a way to schedule a call on a certain date at a certain time in the CUSTOMER'S timezone, and how the appointment scheduled for the equivalent time in the AGENT'S timezone. I did the research and found that there's no fucking way we can spin it ourselves because even within timezones theres local variation. For example, Arizona doesn't observe DST, even though the rest of the states in that TZ DO. There's also the edge case of "what if they schedule the call for 12 days from now, 7 days before the DST switch. What will happen then?

Boilrig won't mind, partly because he lives in NZ, but mostly because he operates outside of space and time. His posts are based on the Higgs-Boson God Particle and can hit forums at any time of day.

Even if you could, you shouldn't since timezones are unpredictable. Not fucking with you. Some countries have occasionally just decided to skip some actions they've done on the regular, or they'll change the amount that they'll be changing by. You get a library that handles converting between timezones, and you keep it updated, at least once a month.

Thank god we don't have any customers in North Korea

But if they do, we should keep the summer timezone I much prefer sunny evenings than sunny dawns

Lot more places on this planet than just North Korea, checking the announcements on the tz-announce mailing list is worth it, just to get a grasp of how often things change. http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz-announce/ In 2017 alone: Southern Chile switched to a single timezone Namibia switched to a single timezone Sudan changed their timezone Tonga will likely (???????????????) switch from two timezones to one Mongolia discontinued DST Haiti resumed DST Northern Cyprus switched from one to two timezones Fiji moved the end date for DST Some random British overseas territory switched from one to two timezones.

I think he was referring to how North Korea intentionally set its timezone 30 minutes apart from South Korea, making it even more confusing than it is already.

I'm aware of the fact that they did that, but to me it sounds like an attempt at downplaying how often timezone data changes.

it was the former not the latter

Now comes the question: should daylight savings time be fixed on or off?

The default is the one that means there's a roughly equal duration of before midday and after.

But I like having my extra hour of sunlight after work.

since when did the EU have the right to change time? We have Big Ben, not you.

Big Ben is on the mend right now. We've forfeited time rights until 2021.

In a consultation paper it said one option would be to let each member state decide whether to go for permanent summer or winter time. That would be "a sovereign decision of each member state", Things gonna be pretty weird when you have EU countries technically in the same timezone but with one hour time difference.

If it passes, I hope that when we will debate in Spain to either stick to summer or winter time we will also change it back to our natural real timezone ( +1 like in Portugal or the Canary Islands ), as back in time Franco made it equal to Germany as one of the many "sympatic acts" to Hitler.

I feel like this is pointless since phone and computers adjust the time instantly and I like it when there's a hour to spare.

Not as weird as EU countries technically in different timezones but actually not. Looking at you, Spain and Poland.

id honestly prefer sticking to permanent DST, i like daylight

Reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY

I love me some nighttime so having it come a bit earlier into the day is my favourite part of winter.

Good for you, the sun going down in the late afternoon kicks my depression into mega-overdrive

Nighttime, and rain, has always had the opposite effect on me personally. Sorry to hear that

The hostility to daylight savings here is surprising to say the least.

As someone who works with American and European customers, DST can go fuck its self due to what I previously mentioned. Its damning to trade and is fucking annoying to work around, especially with the Americans who are special because its on a per state basis.

name one good thing about switching DST on and off instead of sticking to one