good luck buying THC ridden weed with a credit card /s
"I'm unaware of how badly I'm being fleeced so the system is fine"
You're literally part of the problem.
The only benefit cash has, is that it is untraceable and is just about always accepted. That's it. If you are seriously concerned about credit cards, a debit card is functionally as good as cash.
Credit vs debit is an entirely different issue, but credit history is absolutely a big deal in the US. Even if you never take out a line of credit, your credit score or lack thereof can impact your life. And no credit is often just as bad as bad credit when doing certain things. So yes, it is possible to shoot yourself in the foot if you pay everything with cash in the US.
I, too, don't want to build a good credit history.
The motto was first suggested either by Google employee Paul Buchheit at a meeting about corporate values that took place in early 2000[7] or in 2001[8] or, according to another account, by G
oogle Engineer Amit Patel in 1999.[9] Buchheit, the creator of Gmail,
said he "wanted something that, once you put it in there, would be hard
to take out", adding that the slogan was "also a bit of a jab at a lot
of the other companies, especially our competitors, who at the time, in
our opinion, were kind of exploiting the users to some extent".[7]
At what point in the last 18 years or so did it morph into "Don't Be Evil"? The last 5-10 years?
Remember, "Don't Be Evil" doesn't mean "Do Good", just means they aren't going to do the absolute most evil thing possible-
It works like this: a person searches for "red lipstick" on Google, clicks on an ad, surfs the web but doesn’t buy anything. Later, she walks into a store and buys red lipstick with her Mastercard.
The advertiser who ran the ad is fed a report from Google, listing the sale along with other transactions in a column that reads "Offline Revenue" -- only if the web surfer is logged into a Google account online and made the purchase within 30 days of clicking the ad.
The advertisers are given a bulk report with the percentage of shoppers who clicked or viewed an ad then made a relevant purchase.
Mastercard's spokesman said the company does not view data on the individual items purchased inside stores.*
*they cannot, credit card companies only see vendors and amount paid
They took it out of their policy and one of their executives, maybe s recent CEO, said it was the stupidest saying ever. So basically a guy got in and thought, "But I want to be evil. This is dumb, why can't I be evil?"
Eric Schmidt talked about this in an NPR podcast:
SAGAL: Well, let me ask you another question which is Google's slogan is famously, don't be evil, right? How did you guys come up with that?
SCHMIDT: Well, it was invented by Larry and Sergey. And the idea was that we don't quite know what evil is, but if we have a rule that says don't be evil, then employees can say, I think that's evil. Now, when I showed up, I thought this was the stupidest rule ever, because there's no book about evil except maybe, you know, the Bible or something.
So what happens is, I'm sitting in this meeting, and we're having this debate about an advertising product. And one of the engineers pounds his fists on the table and says, that's evil. And then the whole conversation stops, everyone goes into conniptions, and eventually we stopped the project. So it did work.
SAGAL: Really? I love the idea...
SCHMIDT: Yeah.
SAGAL: ...like, you're coming in, like, you're a businessman who's been successful in all kinds of Silicon Valley business. And you come in, and you're like this thing about not being evil, that'll never
work in American business.
SAGAL: What, are you crazy, kids?
So basically a typical American businessman came in and saw that the business wasn't accepting enough of sleaze, and to ensure the capitalist status quo wasn't upset, taught these naïve kids that profit has to come above all else in the land of stockholders.
I wonder, was Google always publicly-traded, by any chance?
haha, no it's much more boring than that. it's more like everyone would use that excuse to hault projects they didn't like or disagreed with. "evil" is subjective -- someone might say "we should email our users to let them know about a sale" and someone would say "emailing users about a sale is evil because I hate getting emails about sales!!" so then the team can't make a decision and nothing happens. another example would be "we should deprecate this old API and everyone should use the new API" and then you'd probably hear "that's evil for those that use the old API".
I still think that slogan was a canary. They removed it when they started doing evil shit
This seems like shit advertisement. Why would I want to see ads for shit I already bought?
I've never heard of that. What exactly are the consequences of having bad or no credit?
It works like this: a person searches for "red lipstick" on Google, clicks on an ad, surfs the web but doesn’t buy anything. Later, she walks into a store and buys red lipstick with her Mastercard.
The advertiser who ran the ad is fed a report from Google, listing the sale along with other transactions in a column that reads "Offline Revenue" -- only if the web surfer is logged into a Google account online and made the purchase within 30 days of clicking the ad.
The advertisers are given a bulk report with the percentage of shoppers who clicked or viewed an ad then made a relevant purchase.
Mastercard's spokesman said the company does not view data on the individual items purchased inside stores.*
I feel like this information would be so incredibly useful to advertisers (not even in a scummy way) that I would fully support them having methods to do this. I wish Google could have done this in a less secret way to avoid breaking people's trust. I feel like doing this is extremely valuable for companies that want to know the effectiveness of ads they're running, as long as the data is obfuscated in such a way that there's no way to obtain data on individuals (even theoretically).
Money and power is a slow corruption. You start justifying one thing and in the next few years, you're pulling the strings on something terrible that you never would have agreed to before.
Just when I was excited for getting my first Debit Card. Fuck.
google has been hella sketchy for years now.
for a while every time you spoke to your android phone a recording would be saved to the cloud. kind of creepy to go back and listen to a 9 year old conversation. i dont know if they changed this. i wonder how many governments and their officials have been spied on through google?
Credit history is ome the dumbest fucking measures I've seen.
It is but I'm not gonna fuck myself over by ignoring it.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.
