It's always amusing how thing like to just happen to totally break down out of warrenty
He didn't mention that you need to flash some parts into the car, similar to John Deere tractors.
Unless there are laws against this, there is no reason not to believe that (at least some) manufacturers make some parts with particular durabilities that have a good chance of breaking out of warranty.
Lots of companies do this, it's a pretty well known thing in the world of engineering and people who actually know how shit should work if you don't want to be replacing it every year. Power tool manufacturers are especially bad about it because they don't make money if you're buying a tool and using it for 10 years. Even top brands that you'd see being sold from tool trucks to shops do it. The term is engineered to fail, and it's very, very common in consumer products. HP printers are really bad about it too.
Uhh, I'm pretty sure HP products fail before they leave the box at this point.
The important bit about warranties and fixing software vehicles and requiring a flashing the system. That's the future of trying to attempt to fixing cars. Its already destroyed the financial situations of farmers and now its coming for consumer cars.
Thiiiiiiisssss. Drives me nuts that I've got to either jank rig my own fog lights button and wiring that completely bypasses the built in cabling / button circuit board or pay a whole shitload of shekels to get the dealer to activate it software side as well as solder a button on all because the person who bought the car back in 2002 didn't want to get fog lights.
Are you okay, Jinx? Had a bit to drink tonight, perhaps?
As with every tech, people are going to get very creative with homemade fixes.
Wait... Isn't this guy a Facepuncher? IIRC, one of our own drove his Tesla across the country without the supercharging stations.
Wasn't that Casey Spencer?
Facepuncher breaks Tesla Model S single charge distance record
$1500 for headlight modules ho ho holy shit.
Also the lego car comparison is pretty much every car. Has this guy never worked on any semi-modern vehicle? This wouldn't really be news if it wasn't tesla except for the fact that they don't let regular repair centers have diagnostic tools and manuals. That's what's killing their serviceability, and for no good reason either.
The price of parts sounds pretty consistent for a luxury vehicle. OEM parts are always crazy expensive, doubly so for luxury brands. Headlight assemblies on cars with steerable lights approach a thousand dollars a pop. This is why cars like Mercedes absolutely plummet in value, because you have to start sinking so much money into them once all those neat little gizmos (like pop-open door handles on Tesla Model S) start breaking.
The problem is Tesla trying to completely lock out third party suppliers and not making service manuals available outside of their own network. It's the Apple or John Deere of cars.
he has 135,000 miles on the car, it's not surprising it's having all kinds of issues
I have 125,000 myself and the only issue I've got is a lazy door lock on one door. I don't know if other peoples' expectations are different, but I expect my car to last at least 250,000 without major issues.
Doesn't matter. Tesla is pretty well-known for taking ridiculous steps to deny service. Even if you wanted to pay them money to fix your car, if it's something they don't want to fix, they aren't going to fix it. That is bullshit, and it requires people to criminalize themselves to fix it on their own because who the hell wants to buy a brand new car because the manufacturer that designed it to be unrepairable doesn't want to repair it?
If they don't build it to be fixed, then deny service because it's not built to be fixed, then it shouldn't be sold in the first place. And the fact that people have to commit a crime just to provide a service that the manufacturer themselves DO NOT PROVIDE is absurd. I can't believe that people are okay with this. Why should someone have to be viewed as a criminal when they fix something that the OEM won't even touch (e.g. John Deere tractors)? It's bullshit.
Hp wants over 150 to refill the black and color ink in this old printer we have. Fuck off. Now we bought an ink tank printer so HP can fuck off again.
This is why i'll never own anything newer than 1990. I can fix anything that brakes, i can't fix the hole in my wallet for the 10,000 dollar laptop the ECU demands i use to tell it it's fine.
Isn't Apple also pretty notorious about planned obsolescence and engineered to fail?
It's bad enough everything is made as cheaply as possible to squeak out as much profit as possible, but also putting in intentional design flaws and updates to break stuff after a couple years forcing people to re-buy is the cherry on top.
I had a 99 4runner that had 240k on it with no issues insight. I did all the work on it with the exception of tire service / rotation. It just all depends on what you buy, there's easy to work on new cars and super proprietary old ones so don't let year model alone stop you.
People want long lasting cars but don't give enough of a shit to maintain them or buy shitty brands that pull this card.
You wanna see your wheels push 200k+?
1. Do your research. Look for maintainability and avoid known planned obsolescence.
2. Regular fluid changes and ABSOLUTELY do not neglect it (Motor, Trans, Radiator, etc)
3. Don't out drive your ride's ability to function. Your multiton boat will kill your transmission if you don't have the appropriate tow package. Low ride height? Don't even think about driving through water or heavy gravel. RIP your oil pan if you do.
4. If you see chipped paint / exposed metal where there should be paint then get it fixed ASAP. It'll eventually rust if you don't.
5. DO NOT ignore Check Engine / Warning lights. They should be considered priority until you can confirm what the issue is and then take appropriate action from there.
Take care of your rides, folks
The problem isn't that, the problem is proprietary blueballing on modern cars.
My dad had a C230, and i wanted to do the basic of basics, change trans/oil at dad's behest. Oil was fine, drain pan, pour in filler. But no visible way to even check the trans fluid level, let alone fill it.
I eventually gave up when the only possible option appeared to be strip out the center console and floor plate. And to the best of my understanding you both need to do that and go through propriety fasteners on top of the tranny but i'm not sure.
The problem isn't that cars are any technically harder to fix. The problem is that manufacturers put proprietary nonsense and willfully obtuse bullshit on top to keep people who don't know what they're doing from fucking up their car, and people who do know what they're doing from keeping it going. 10,000 dollar tech laptops and ECU readers, proprietary tools and other such nonsense.
I can rebuild a jaguar V12. But i can't work on a new econobox four banger.
teslas are such fucking trash
i've seen people post this on other boards and god DAMN you would not believe how many tesla dick riders run in to defend the brand.
its obvious they dont even own one of these machines, and it remains to be seen if they can even drive.
This particularly pisses me off when I hear about the shit Farmers have to put up with because of John Deere's notorious software diagnostic bullshit.
"Oh dear our John Deere is having problems and its software related..." *pays close to $25,000 to get the tractor fixed*
I mean I have 149k on my 2013 Taurus (which is as old as this car) and I've just had to change the alternator and brakes and the usual at the most, this is even worse considering most of his are probably highway miles.
This is sort of a symptom of over engineering everything like door handles that pop out and what not
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