Microsoft to allow enterprise customers get Windows 7 updates until 2023 - Sensationalist Headlines

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/09/06/windows_7_extended_support/ If it's anything like XP's extra support, you'll just need a simple registry tweak and you're all set until 2023. 7 is the new XP, but XP is forever

I'm only ever leaving 7 if Microsoft gives us back the control and access to the inner workings they took away with 8 and 10 in the name of "ease of access" It's not like I ever particularly know how to use most of those tools well, but the levels of obfuscation in Win10 just annoy and infuriate me. You can't even take a look at your wifi connection's strenght for fuck's sake.

i still use win7 on my dev box at werk, though my other computers are running 10

What tools are you talking about? Also, you most certainly can see how strong your connection is.

Well I certainly haven't yet found it so far when using Win10

https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/226797/8127486d-84ec-42c9-920d-4ced75de228d/image.png But assuming you're actually talking about true details: right click on the wifi symbol, click 'Open Network and Internet Settings' then 'View your Network properties.'

has to be because no one can be this blind https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1755/ee9f3e85-c14b-4dba-acca-68e9f1a33379/image.png Unscrewed one of my antennas just to do it

I don't have the wifi symbol on my taskbar, come to think of it I never have. https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1819/e9ba6266-af84-4d8d-80a9-081d7b10ddbb/tskbr.PNG

Because you're on a wired network. At least, that's what your taskbar is saying.

and if you aren't chances are you're using one of those ethernet plug wifi adapters.

thats pretty telling that you have no idea what you're talking about

Windows 7 used to think my wireless network was a wired network for some reason so I had the wired icon despite being on WiFi for years.

Windows 10 isn't only trash (it being trash isn't exclusive to 10, though, that's just Windows for you), it has to be the most ugly and visually non-consistent version of WIndows ever

https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/441/8d0b34fc-48ae-447b-83a8-e951e192d385/7CFGXdH.jpg

Got a new work laptop. Turned it on for the first time and Cortana started screaming at me. What the fuck were they smoking? Immediately turned off and installed Linux. Now I can work without all the low level hostile bullshit

This goes beyond artistic choices even, its basically the most confused OS in existence right now. You have multiple control panels with only each one able to provide certain functions. They need to get someone in to lay out a cohesive vision for the product like Apple with MacOS instead of it being pulled in multiple directions.

They've improved some of this, like right-click the taskbar looks how it should, though yeah there's still a lot of jarring inconsistency.

I haven't tried Cortana yet, since I always edit my privacy settings.

That's what I've done on previous W10 installs. This was on first boot, before being given the chance to edit any settings. Look https://youtu.be/Rp2rhM8YUZY

They just want you to push you to the brink of insanity so they can push SCCM on you ;)

And that is just the context menus. If we also take a look at shell windows... https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/58120/dfb107c7-b6ed-4b64-b4e8-41c6a55e6279/image.png Well...atleast it's colourful. I can't wait for that Fluent Design thing to be implemented. https://cdn0.tnwcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2017/05/Fluent-What-796x443.jpg

windows 10 really is awful, it has significant stability problems on even on clean installs as soon as the updates happen and break everything. It doesn't respect the user settings, microsoft seems to think they are in an arms race against people trying to access and use things like the group policy editor and not use things like cortana, and if you're one of those people who "never had problems" good for you, because you've gotten lucky after they fired most of their testing team and expect users to deal with all the problems. Problems which include driver level breakage, loss of support for basic features, patches that enforce blanket input lag and secretly enable random "windows uwp" cancer. not to forget the absolute fucking masters they have writing the passive aggressive update messages. I just imagine a room of angry devs typing that shit up.

I haven't had any instances where shit just flat out breaks from updates (yet) but I have noted at least once that my settings get wiped to factory default sometimes, but what I have experienced is windows applications taking an absurd time to start. It shouldn't take twenty fucking seconds for a calculator to start up, nor should it take that long to fire up the New and Improved Photos™ app and view a single picture.

A Windows OS isn't a real Windows OS if it doesn't look like this: https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/209014/95378c6b-4b24-4086-86b2-79a00b9ab858/image.png

There's a lot of things wrong with this picture...

Have fun with your botnet, nerds

I personally don't have too many problems with Windows 10 as long as I just keep using my software like a good boy but once I feel like changing a setting, it's like being lost in a Vietnamese jungle during the war. The default start menu is horrible, chunky and the most obvious concession for touchscreens, it has no options like what you wanna go to My Computer or Control Panel through the start menu in one click? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Instead have this bootleg control panel made for touchscreens that turns what should be a simple, consolidated menu where you can take care of all your personalization needs into this compartmentalized corporate help desk experience all "I'm sorry sir but we only take care of the currently signed in user profile, if you want to create a Windows profile for a family member, you'll have to call the Families & Other People desk at Settings Panel department" Thank god for Classic Shell.

Lump of this is getting resolved in the next major update but it does still stand. The apps mostly take their top bar/background colours from your theme preferences while the settings window is 100% black. Also Edge doesn't bother to load up a different css set for the dark theme so the launch page is always blinding white as that's the default. Also the Store's inconsistency can be blamed mostly on Xbox as they build it for that first then tack on a half arsed Windows UI when they compile it.

I haven't had any issues with Windows 10, all of our machines at work use it and I feel I have to fix stuff less often with other people's machines than when we were on Windows 7. I never use the windows 10 settings options, all the older settings are available through the control panel and most of the time I can just start typing what I need and find it.

it's where the money is unfortunately... because all the desktop apps are shit. And GAMErS need their online option