• NYT Editorial Response: Mike Pence denies discussing removal of Donald Trump
    17 replies, posted
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/09/mike-pence-denies-discussing-plan-to-remove-donald-trump-from-power Though the author of the New York Times article said there had been discussion of removing the “amoral … impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective” Trump from power, he or she also drew attention to administration achievements – Republican goals including “effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more”. Interviewer Margaret Brennan asked: “Mr Vice-President. I asked you earlier if anyone on your staff wrote this op-ed. Have you asked your staff?” “Oh well,” Pence replied. “I … I thought you were speaking about the administration staff. Let me be very clear, I’m 100% confident that no one on the vice-president’s staff was involved in this anonymous editorial. “I … I know my people, Margaret. They get up every day and are dedicated, just as much as I am, to advancing the president’s agenda and supporting everything the President Trump is doing for the people of this country.” 🤔
Pence is a pretty shrewd operator. He knew that he'd never have the clout to become president under his own power, so he attached himself to Trump's crazy train and is ready to jump off just before it completely derails.
As President, Pence won't have a mandate, since he wasn't the one who got elected. If he knows what's good for him he'll keep his nose clean until he's kicked out in 2020.
His goal is to get rid of abortions and gay marriage basically.
Two states (Alabama and West Virginia) are already having ballot initiatives this year whether to amend the state constitutions to say that nothing in them secures or gives a right to abortion, so that the state law can't be used to make abortions legal if Brett Kavanaugh leads an overturn of Roe v. Wade. Four states have useless laws that will trigger the second Roe v. Wade is overturned banning abortions. Biggest wedge issue of all time besides slavery
I am pretty convinced that Pence is the op-ed writer. He's not on the vice president's staff, can't be kicked out by trump, has everything to gain by trump getting kicked out, and the op-ed used the word lodestar which is one of his favorite words. It's not open and shut or anything, but he'd be who I'd place my money on.
he does seem to be putting out a lot of statements to say he was not the op-ed writer, more than anyone else by a longshot.
Evangelicals have been meddling and fucking everyone over in this country for years. So yea.
Trump proves there's no such thing as an election mandate, congress actually swayed towards democrats when they elected him but its been run as if they had just won 400 republican house seats and 80 senate seats
It's simple. Trump has made most Americans hate the Republican Party. If Pence doesn't want them to stand no chance of winning a federal election for the next twenty years, he'll behave.
God I wish this were true.
It actually is. The majority of Americans are tired of the GOP's bullshit.
I'd like to see a source on that, because despite this claim, Dem's only lead polling by a ~8% margin and Trump is still floating pretty steadily at around 40% approval. Neither of these numbers are great for the GOP, but it's a far cry from a majority despising the them. 538 In terms of party image, I found this Gallup poll from about a year ago. It says that 59% of respondents have an unfavorable view of the GOP. Sure, so a simple majority of Americans don't view them favorably, but I should also mention that 51% of respondents had an unfavorable view of the Democratic Party as well. That's not very reassuring, and still does not raise itself to the level of a "majority of Americans hating the GOP".
Are you sure they're tired of the GOP or just tired of Trump? Because if the GOP go back to how they were immediately before Trump ran for president, I can see them getting a lot of people back onto their side.
Trump Officials are constantly using other officials' writing styles and preferred words when leaking information to try to throw people off course.
A majority is just more than half, so Arcangel isn't at all wrong in his claim and your source actually supports his point.
Maybe it's somewhat technically factual, but it's still misleading at best. I would still place a higher standard on "hate" than I would "disapprove". Also considering that by the same measure most Americans also don't like Democrats, you'll find that more than anything else Americans are just staunchly divided between both parties. Saying "most Americans hate the Republican Party" leaves out half of the full picture and is more bombastic than what the evidence seems to support.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.