The comics industry is finally, belatedly facing up to Comicsgate - Sensationalist Headlines

https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/comicsgate/

Oh look, another news article that thinks that a minority of people under the Gamergate banner represent the majority and the movements actual goals. Who'd have guessed? I don't know anything about "Comicsgate" but if they're anything like Gamergate I'm not going to take anything the media says about it at face value.

If you find a decent source on the issue I'll post it in the OP.

If you know it's a shit source deliberately steering an angle... then why post it?

I struggled to find a source that didn't mention gamergate in some way.

Maybe that means it's not worth posting about :O

I thought it was notable and people here would be interested in the story. I could be wrong! it's happened before. You could just stop posting in this thread I guess if it's not worth your time.

I feel like we just had another thread where someone kept insisting this was the thing to do.

Sure, I try to post as honestly as I can. Can you admit that maybe all my posts are not a concerted effort to bait you or piss you off?

If they arent bait then why bother posting anything related to gamergate at all?

As honestly as you can being not at all in this case. Sometimes I just see you post exclusively half truths and bait in relation to any gate related thing.

I dunno man. you're always bringing a slant to these subjects that don't really tend to hold up under objective scrutiny. I mean. Not just this article, but every time we get into social justice. You're not delusional, you don't throw a fit. You just consistently refuse consideration of other people's observations or to entertain arguments backed by statistics over anecdotes. It's borderline concern trolling, except that would imply you know that you're essentially deflecting and ignoring observable truths. So, no. You don't exist to piss me off. But you seem disingenuous at times IMO. I remember last time i addressed this with you, you switched between "well i don't mean to" and "i guess that's just how it is." instead of addressing the discussion at hand. I mean. you do you. But people are allowed to dislike the topic for its slant, people are allowed to disagree and people are allowed to factually disprove false claims and disavow deliberately misleading sources. Where would we be if they didn't?

From what little I know of Comicgate from discussions on /co/, it's a LOT closer to the shitflinging side of Gamergate than the ethics watchdog side. The goals seem to revolve around "saving" comics over a perceived degradation of the industry, apparently thanks to nepotism in Marvel and DC leading to incompetent left-wing ideologues getting to spread their agenda unstopped. The issue here is that the "solutions" they suggest to this problem is funding comics like Alt*Hero, instead of redirecting your patronage to groups like IDW.

This lines up with what little I've seen. I haven't seen any mention of ethics or corruption concerns.

Can you give proof me doing this? I guess I can't be someone who just enjoys posting on forum dot facepunch dot com. TBH I probably felt like I was being ganged up on, which never feels great. I try to be as rational as I can but I'm not perfect.

Because GamerGate was taken by assholes who were in it just to harass, lie and gaslight everything and everyone. And it didn't help that the media continually lied to its audience about GG as well. GG was never against women, that's what most people are failing to understand. It was only about objective reporting and fairly reviewing of games, so publishers/people could no longer buy/bribe/ reviewers to review their games.

I mean, why do you think? I think it's because while the alt-right essentially hi-jacked GamerGate after the six-month mark, a lot of claimed harassment on the more publically visible personalities' part turned out to be blatant false-flagging. They were repeatedly caught in lying and all the while, the gaming-press were mis-representing and spinning every confrontation by only covering the angle where gamers called a cunt a cunt instead of looking at why they did so. I mean. I guess we can ascertain our different understandings of these events simply by me asking you how you viewed the firing of Jessica Price last month. Was your focus entirely on concern trolling around the validity of the firing, or did you recognize that the firing is secondary to the insane outbursts she delivered beforehand? Do you believe that gamers somehow managed to get her fired, or was it her own stupidity? How then do you view the very recent Riot Games sexism shitstorm? Another two people got fired for getting abusive and sexist with straight white men. The idea seemed to be that you can't be sexist to white men and if you could, they deserved it. Which, y'know is pure-form hypocrisy and bigotry. But again i ask. Is your focus once again where Kotaku tried to put? are you focused on the preceeding events as laid out by Kotaku, or are you open to the idea that sometimes anxious and stressed hypocrites will react hypocritically? I'm not asking if the firings were right or wrong. I'm asking where your focus would be, because it could tell me why you think Gamergate was somehow NEVER a legit movement. That it was somehow ALWAYS alt-right and some kind of cartoon-villain collective. TL;DR: I posit this: GamerGate was an ethics protest. Gamergate got hi-jacked by the alt-right. Suddenly the false narrative was true. That still doesn't erase all the effort that went into self-harassment and false-flagging on certain people's part. It also doesn't erase all the bullshit 4chan got up to and the harassment they directed at people. But i'm just baffled that you buy into the story put forth by a group of people who were already caught manipulating the subject and lying about it. WAS the objective truth. WE try to keep a level head and discuss what we see. You'll see that isn't necessarily something /GamerGhazi or Resetera has in common with us. Hopefully coming right up. Otherwise i have to go dig a week or two back. Either way, really shouldn't be a problem. because... This is not my impression and i'm not alone. No. Neither am i. But i'm not holding you to some divine standard here. I'm asking you not to jerk people around. I mean, you're not an asshole.

Lambeth I feel you kind of just disregard when most of the forum is telling you that you're basically tuddposting (or at least being as frustrating as a tuddposter) and maybe you should take a minute to consider it instead of complaining about being ganged up on. like this post kind of embodies the mindset of a few notorious posters around here, a recent example being Bee York. You can be someone who just enjoys posting on forum dot facepunch dot com, but that doesn't have anything to do with you basically ignoring a lot of criticism levied against your posts.

The divide over GamerGate will never heal. We'll just have two diametrically-opposed versions of events forever, and people will continue to base future arguments and take sides in future controversies over which version they defend, and two totally different accounts of gaming history from the 2010s-onward will develop as a result. That rift will just continue to pervade our culture for as long as our generation is around and its effects will most certainly continue to be felt afterwards from each side's influence on younger generations.

____gates are shitshow on both sides. Don't get involved if you don't want to be forever labeled an SJW or Red Piller/Skinhead

Gamergate was never supposed to be about anti-feminism but it most certainly became that after some time.

It was literally started by an abusive boyfriend trying to get revenge on his ex.

That may be true but I honestly believe Gamergate stuck pretty well to its "games journalism ethics" goals in those early days. Then it went off the rails and (extremely hot take incoming) more or less directly caused Trump's presidency.

Oh fuck you. Zoe Quinn was the abuser, you know this and I know you know this because you were in those threads shitposting the whole fucking time. Zoe Quinn dragged Eron Gjoni through court for years and essentially ruined his life and you act like she's a fucking good guy. Stop lying about this.

Yeah if you think Zoe Quinn is innocent, I really don't know what to tell you.

Dude, stop. You were there. You disregarded anything that didn’t fit your narrative and still do. Quinn is an abuser. She drove someone to suicide in the Helldump days and celebrated it. Youd NEVER EVER let a man live that down but you defend Quinn with some sort of perverse backwards logic that it’s okay for her to do that.

Are you serious. Are you really. fucking. serious. Did you even read the Zoe Post? Have you read ANYTHING about Zoe at all? Did you not follow Eron's trial against Zoe when SHE was the one to go after him with a lawsuit? If you really believe that poor innocent Zoe was shat on just because she was a women, then I cannot trust you on ANYTHING else relating to GG.

Dude, Zoe will never date you. I'm sorry I have to let you down like this.

Here's the thing about Gamergate that everybody here fails to recognize. Facepunch was probably the one place on the internet where the intention and discussion was honestly about ethics in video game journalism. Everywhere else though, it was nothing but a but of angry, insecure nerds doxxing people and railing against the feminazis and the SJWs who they thought were ruining the video game industry. Step out of the boundaries of Facepunch and take a good long look at what Gamergate was everywhere else. The media didn't "lie" all of that horrible shit happened on a wide scale. All it did was show people how hateful and childish the underbelly of the video game community can be.

Those are some spicy alternative facts you got there.