• The Cheapest Gaming PC [2kliksphilip]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLZ9b5DfOYk
the 2400G should be even more powerful
The polygon job applications at the middle and end had me in stitches!
I do VR on a ridiculously overclocked A10-5700k and R9-270x. I mean, it doesn't do it well but it's okay. Not bad for a computer i've had for 10 years.
That right now is my goal PC If you guys know any other videos that are like this please let me know
Might be a good tip to check out older secondhand videocards aswell, for example i had a Radeon Sapphire 7870 (it has dx12 support) from 2012 and it can handle fallout 4 and skyrim pretty well. Another tip is to check out this channel aswell, or other budget build channels like it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqXjcG3VTis
It's amazing what we can get out of a PC these days on such a tight budget. Part of me wants to build a system like this just to tinker with and push to its absolute limit.
used pc hardware is honestly underrated, I've a couple of friends who managed to get themselves complete systems on the cheap. Sure, the hardware's from like 2012, but they only paid about 150$ for it and it still manages to run pretty much everything modern at a fully playable 30-60 FPS with a mix between medium and high settings in 1080p
Used PC hardware is fantastic. It's not like a car where most things can wear out. On a PC the only things that really wear out (in a short timespan like 5 years) is really just fan bearings and mechanical hard drives. Everything solid state will keep trucking for a *very* long time.
I have pushed my APU to the max, at least the CPU part of it. I'm running it a 4.1ghz. It's... not the most stable chip like that, but it's stable enough for my daily driver, and that boosts it enough to hang with more modern mid-range chips.
I was about to write a post asking how the fuck they managed that, then I realized 2012 was six fucking years ago
You should also be wary of the power supply when buying a used PC
Digital foundry did like 3 or 4 videos last year on how well the 3770k still does in gaming. Originally, they were investigating how the 2500k did and concluded that it had "finally" dropped from capable of high-end gaming to mid-end. But a 3770k @ 4.4 according to their results STILL yielded 100+ FPS in Witcher 3 worst case scenario. i mean. That processor can power a 1080 GTX and still not fully bottleneck in nearly all scenarios. Only Denuvo titles tax it noticeably. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZxZiksWtRQ Here they compare the generation on generation growth from Ivy Bridge to 8xxx series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHUfSIdyIfw The shameful truth is that intel's performance gain from 2xxx to 7xxx was horribly pitiful and the result was a flooding of high-end processors on the market from 5 different generations which all still can play games, especially with slight and easily attainable overclocks past 4.4 GHz. Even today you will absolutely be fine with any of their older i7's or newer i5's as long as you either have hyperthreading or high clock-speed on a quad-core. I'm very curious how these will age into the next console generation though.
I was referring to the price, in my mind 2012 was just a couple of years ago. But yeah, I even know a couple of people who still use their old AMD Phenom II X4 955's which they bought back in the summer of 2009 when they had just been released. They still manage to run pretty much anything they throw at them at 60FPS. IIRC the only game they've had problems with was FC5, which they had to lock to 30FPS to get a consistent, non-choppy experience
Issue with the older CPUs like the Phenom II series is AVX and other extension support. I could not run like 25% of all modern games on one because of that. Other than that, most games ran fairly fine.
The insane part is that you don't really have to compromise much with an older computer. I mean, Laptop gaming is more cancerous than a desktop from 2011 with a slightly modern GPU. PC gaming has actually come really fucking far since 2006-7.
My parents want me to make a new computer for them and I have seriously been considering using one of these for them in a mini-ITX build. It's probably overkill since They're not gamers but it should last them for a very long time and not take up a lot of room. My current PC still runs fine after +4 years, it does need a better graphics card though .
I took a different route with CPU, I got a Xeon E3-1230 v3 because this was originally going to be a workstation PC which would do heavily threaded tasks, and the 1230 is a hyper threaded quad-core. Unfortunately it’s clocked really low and can’t overclock on my H77 board so I’m desperately CPU strangled in lots of games where my GTX 980 Ti should have zero problem. I get 20fps in FFXV on any settings and maybe 30 in GTA V on maximum, when I should be in the 100s on each. But my Ryzen 7 2700X just arrived to fix all that 🙃
I had a similar idea, posted about it in the PC Building thread even. Go check that out
Thats pretty neat but they want it done within a month or so I don't think the Athlon will come out on time (thanks for that though!). I was also looking at the Intel Pentium Gold G5400 which is going to be option 1 but they wanted some other options so I chucked the Ryzen APU in as an option.
The 2200G is an insane price/performance option. $100 (US) + a nice B450 board and a dual-rank kit, you're set for a long time. Plus if AMD release an even better option down the line (Ryzen 3 based APU) you can just drop that replacement into the same board with but a BIOS update.
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