• Lithuania urges Walmart to drop Soviet-themed shirts
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/sep/08/lithuania-urges-walmart-to-drop-soviet-themed-shirts
imagine making tshirts that reminds us of mass killings and occupation and how much we suffered delusional americans
Imagine wanting to censor history not just in your own country, but also from private companies in a different country from your own.
Walmart doesn't sell these in any of the post Soviet states, similar to how Nazi iconography is only popular fashion in Asia, degrees of separation.
I can kind of sympathize with their position, it's fucking bizarre that an American big box store sells shirts the carry the iconography of a regime that killed millions of it's own people.
And was the thing we were fighting against for the longest time, and is responsible for upwards of 75,000 to 100,000 American soldier deaths. Seriously, I'll never fucking understand why Soviet Socialism/Communism, or really any of said systems are still supported here in the United States.
I think the type of people who wear this shit are probably the biggest edge lords ever but I wouldn't consider banning it. It'll be like India asking the US to ban all shirts with the union jack on it due to the countless crimes committed there by the redcoats. Also before someone inevitably brings up nazi imagery, while the Soviets were evil as fuck at times the soviet symbols represented far less evil regimes later on such as Gorbachev's, while the swastika represents only genocide and hate.
Russians suffered under Stalin too. Google 'Russia 1937 - 1938.'
I don't think you know what "censoring" means.
but it looks pretty dope on some shirt designs, sucks to have such things sold in a country with soviet union history i guess?
There's nothing "dope" about the symbol of mass killings and oppression.
I don't really get why you would wear something like that, and I'm surprised Walmart isn't catching shit from the GOP for it? Also didn't know anywhere had banned the hammer and sickle like Germany with the swastika, never really thought about it
It's not really like the German ban, anything that uses the symbols in their original context is perfectly okay. Also, apparently Germany has a ban on soviet symbols too.
The GOP? You think they'd be catching shit for russia related shit from the GOP?
We should also stop selling Che Guevara shirts while we're at it
I'd say let people buy and wear them, it'll be a very easy way to tell who's a douchebag.
Doesn't surprise me considering this is genuinely a shop in Thailand: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/05/article-0-1AABF37A000005DC-858_634x407.jpg Some countries are so weird.
honestly keep selling them, biggest fuck you to the late USSR to make capital off it
That's actually pretty similar to German law, the symbols are allowed in certain contexts, such as history and art that's deemed to not be promoting the ideology (before anyone asks: video games are not art under German law, they're considered toys, which is a context those symbols are not allowed in).
Lol what ! So selling Nazi merch is the biggest fuck you to Nazi Germany which doesn't exist ? Talk about some awful logic.
Were the Communists awful in every way and should not be celebrated? Yes. But I think that the owner of a store should have the choice what to sell and who to sell it to, just because I don't like something doesn't mean I can tell them not to sell that thing.
And we can protest with angry letters.
The red star is also a banned symbol in many eastern bloc countries. Last year there was some discussion here whether Heineken bottles actually violate this rule, but it was decided that in the few cases when these symbols aren't in a political context, their usage is acceptable.
While the swastika and hammer and sickle aren't banned in general use. The use of them in protests are banned.
Yes I'm sure the USSR must be absolutely devestated because someone sells tshirts
nazis weren't against capital
Is this supposed to be a joke or something ?
kind of i guess? seeing the hammer and sickle, the most recognizable symbol of communism, an ideology whose end result is the dissolution of the capitalist system and an end to money, being (probably) produced by slave labor then boxed and sold far above cost to produce by one of the most successful capitalist enterprises on earth is a kind of funny situation.
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