Americans want to believe jobs are the solution to poverty. They're not. - Sensationalist Headlines

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/11/magazine/americans-jobs-poverty-homeless.html Good article talking about wealth inequality and wage slave conditions that are starting to become the majority of the US working class.

I don't want to think how miserable my family's life would be if my mom, my girlfriend and me weren't all working. Without that we would likely be part of the working homeless or stuffed into a small apartment. Hoping someday I can pursue an apprenticeship and we won't have to worry about money anymore.

Yeah, employers and politicians can brag about “more jobs!!!!” until they’re blue in the face, but if you aren’t paid beans and get zero benefits, then what measure are “jobs” if you can’t even support yourself? Like, fuck settling down and having kids unless you get a cushy job. Like, I’m still living at home because I live in Florida and most apartments in my area are either expensive as hell for retirees or actual rat holes. Plus, my latest colonoscopy yanked over $1,500 out of my pocket cause huge deductible and “lol we don’t cover that” AFTER THE FACT.

Hmm Luckily there is an easy fix - simply make all the wage slaves quit their jobs in one day, completely thrashing all of it God forbid the bosses try to bring in immigrant workers that'll accept wage slavery - that would result in pipe to the legs There, wages raised. Or, fix the worth of currency to the unit of labor. Suddenly people will start realizing how much they're being ripped off

When you are living with very little to no savings. the idea of doing this is incredibly scary and probably would cause terrible things to the economy during the mayhem.

It's real tough in some parts to just keep a roof over your head - even if you have a degree. I consider myself lucky that I was able to get my degree with grants and scholarships - because my dad with masters and decades of management experience still couldn't get a good job for his experience level while I was in college (2008-2012)

Having a job doesn't mean dick if it doesn't pay enough for you to live. Social programs cure poverty, not the private sector.

Conservative ideology in general espouses simple solutions to complex problems, its why messaging is so brutally easy for the right. healthcare? let businesses take care of it Poverty? just get people working civil rights? just let the public decide. global warming? let private market solutions do their thing. economy? its the immigrants! these are complex multifaceted problems that only governments are equipped to deal with but they go ignored because we continually elect luddites that trick people into thinking the solution is obvious.

Cultural degeneration is also to blame. Kids are taught too much useless shit, made dumb and complacent, turned into vapid consumerists with no self control. So we can either go the easiest but bloody way, where we let all that kick them into the ass at some point which is probably at the first major economic crisis which is going to be worse than 2008. Or you go the tough route, beat the idiocy out of the populace (sometimes literally, they won't appreciate it anyway, confirmed with that study that a majority of people can't even conduct inner speech therefore are barely conscious imo)

Why am i not surprised biohazard thinks jobs=wealth. There's mountains of evidence showing weath disparity is growing out of control and 1/3rd the working class is in working homless status. @Biohazard99 tell me how numbers and data is lying.

This is total bullshit how can you believe that the reason most of our workforce is struggling to get by is they are "dumb and complacent" it's much more likely that everywhere you turn companies want years of experience and education for minimum pay, healthcare is bleeding the country dry and between the two people can't afford to pursue other interests or educate themselves further because they are either asleep, sick, or working. But yea sure them lazy kids

1.) Need good jobs 2.) Need a $15 minimum wage 3.) Communities need access to non-predatory credit

That sounds a tad indoctrination camp-y, eugenics-y tbh. (also what the fuck i've always used the mental voice to read, how do they read?)

That's like asking how people speak foreign languages without having to translate their thoughts constantly. We think in concepts, not words. They're just a way of communicating. Same thing with reading. Reading the word directly leads to thinking about the concept. There's no need to simulate a voice inside your head to "hear" the word and then think about it.

This is underrated and insufficiently talked about, IMO. Better jobs is nebulous, better wages will definitely help, but better credit is an essential component to upward mobility. Without reasonable credit you can't get a car, can't buy a house, can't do anything to escape the shitty choice of either expensive short-term renting and driving junker cars or expensive long-term loans with exploitative terms and conditions to buy a decent home or vehicle. Getting people out of poverty requires giving them all the means to do so.

“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.” a quote by Socrates. Some things never change.

i'm glad you found a way to feel superior to others today. all of this is bullshit and you know it.

If it wasn't for safety nets like SS, my parents and many others would be in a horrible state right now.

I used to think getting gigs like the Graphic Design and Marketing job I have now would be plenty to live comfortably but oh boy was I wrong.

I'm not sure,but I remember reading somewhere that Socrates was making fun of old people who believed that with that quote.

I almost went to school for graphic design or game design, thinking I missed out on doing a job that’s has to do with my interests. I’m glad I didn’t. Pay is crap and job security is piss.

Terrible wages way under the cost of living in that area, insane cost of proper education, criminaly expensive healthcare, awful unregulated housing markets in many states, tax evasion of the ultra rich and large corporations, complete waste of tax dollars into the military. All of theses and many other need to be fixed before wealth inequalities and poverty trends reverse in the US. Trickle down economics and more exploitative jobs won't do anything. It's all just a disctraction to pretend the real problems are being fixed when they only are getting worse.

I didn't even go to school for it I just have a natural skill for marketing and I self taught Graphic design. I can confirm that its pretty crap though especially when people can't make up their mind about what they want. Wishing I would have taken a more hands on job that was a little more physical.

Someone might have to "beat the idiocy" out of you if you genuinely believe the whole generation you belong to(Except you) is "dumb and complacent vapid consumerists with no self control". You probably represent all those qualities as well as anyone.

hey freelance / contract graphic designer here, network network network. it's the only way to survive until you get locked into something sweet.

Well, I'm sorry to hear about this Vennessa girls sob-story, I mean assuming she exists, I woulden't be surprised if Matthew Desmond fabricated her as a way to subtly suggest that we should turn everything over and adopt Sweden's Nordic model. One which totally wasn't built on a foundation of libertarianism that even subtly slips through in some ways to this day (afaik Sweden has no minimum wage). Something we don't have now, something which we haven't really had for literally decades, and I'll be honest with you, I doubt this is going to ever change. I have a boyfriend with severe bipolar disorder. Like at times its pretty bad, as on somedays he's full of energy, making all these intense RPG campaigns, and then just afterwards? Boosh, he gets all mopey occasionally bordering on suicidal. But I mean, he lives in Canada which offers free health care with therapists and all, right? Well, he does, and they do... But he doesn't live in one of the cities. He lives in the sticks. It's actually a few hours to one of the cities. Under a privatized health care system, you'd bet that some medical firm would want to spread it's clinics around less some other enterprising firm does so to get a cut of the dough. But because it's just the Canadian government... I mean why bother? There's only like, a few dozen people where he is, and extending coverage is just so expensive so why bother? Atlas Shrugged, but in reverse. Granted in order for it to work you'd have to grow your own food, pump your own water and ultimately squat in the woods... stuff that I doubt most people would either know how to do or have the drive to do... and the big bad evil business owners would just outsource all the work while twirling their mustaches because they're transparently evil and stuff.

I agree but it's indicative of a problem with the human condition and that's that people don't like having to change. If conservatives say "don't worry about it, we'll handle this", it's a pretty placating thing to hear when you look at problems that are bigger than you, where you have no confidence in whether or not you can pull it off on top of your everyday stress. The thing is "we'll handle this" typically means "you'll work more, get paid less and we'll make all the money while we let people who actually give a shit and know no fear do all the hard work by themselves"

ya I don't usually subscribe to the "things were better when..." mentality but people stood up and had enough of this bullshit back in the 30s and elected people who supported an agenda of putting government to the task of solving problems

Galaxy Brain: Obviously the reason nobody built a clinic to service a handful of likely low-income people in the middle of nowhere is that there was no private enterprise around to take advantage of that lucrative business opportunity.

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