• The EU has passed Article 13
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The EU has passed Article 13, but Europe's meme war is far from .. The European Parliament has voted to pass the new EU Copyright Directive. This is when things get messy. Over the last few months, today's vote had been portrayed as a decisive battle over the future of the internet as we know it. Whether you believed that or not, the vote revealed what side of the debate you stood on.
Good luck enforcing this.
We'll never be able to post links again guys. What a fucking dumb idea.
The year is 2020. Memes are illegal. Sounds like the beginning of a scifi story.
I don't really feel like "passed" is the right word, the vote for if it's to actually be implemented will happen in January. It's passed through the revision phase though, which is sad to see.
I guarantee half of the internet is going to shut down when this is passed, including facepunch.
Votes per country; https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/110508/e5b313f9-cffe-432f-b0d9-577673940235/image.png Apparently of the Swedish votes, S and Fi are to have voted wrongly by mistake - according to MP. That's got to be either the worst excuse ever, or just plain incompetence.
UK is leaving the EU tho
Proud of Denmark
So this is the last thing the EU will try to institute?
The final vote is in January 2019 which is JUST before we leave. We'll either make it part of our law anyway like GDPR, have to follow it in case of a soft brexit, or have to suffer with it for a few months and then spend years removing it.
a majority of the UK also voted yes tho
I would say I'm dissapointed in my country, but I don't have many expectations in that area anyway. Anyways, there are certain aspects of article 13 that I don't mind, such as the fact that individual content creators would be covered by fair use as a law, but a majority of it is trash and will lead to an internet that only exists on the social media layer. That or an intermediate layer between that and the dark web, like a grey area of websites that don't abide by article 13 but still exist normally and are accesed via VPN's.
first they banned the memes and i stood silent. then eventually after sifting through all the yannies and laurels and cat videos they banned me.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a previous law that makes this Article illegal/unable to be enforced? When this A13 first came into the public eye and FP some european users posted about "it cannot happen because X law makes it impossible".
We're leaving in March. This will be voted on in January and therefore ratifies into UK law when we leave the EU and it will be much much harder to remove.
http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/730195/85695418.jpg
Well, it is a directive, and as far as I know member countries aren't required to follow directives. How does a draconian copyright law that affects every internet service that operates here function as a directive? I have no clue, and it's probably what EU lawmakers will be trying to figure out in next phase.
Look at that, conservatives and christians fucking up everything, once again. Hopefully people take note of the these fuckers and vote them out next time. https://i.redd.it/y6i0nb4dktl11.jpg
I mean it's very sensationalist, it's going to be revised in january, and even then if it goes through, any one of the countries in the EU can veto the bill. Seeing as how Sweden are taking a stand against it, it'll either be revised to not be a shit bill or, it will be canned.
Sweden can only change how they want it to work for them. If they decide to completely disregard the law, it'll only affect them. I'm more worried about Denmark. Our current government and representatives have shown a complete disregard for the people's wishes, so I would not be surprised if they decide to go all-out on this.
Ive been completely out of the loop with all this, what exactly does the law serve to do?
 It would require web giants to automatically filter copyrighted material — songs, images, videos — uploaded on their platforms, unless it has been specifically licensed.   Require internet companies to pay news outlets for hosting their content on their platforms. I.E you cannot post more then a sentence if you don't own it
How the ideology of personal agency, economic freedom, and individual rights became obsessed with filtering and legislating the internet of all things is just absurdly cognitively dissonant, even for conservative standards.
My people is fucking duuummmb.
Same how you can screech states' rights for restricting abortion and gay marriage, but not for marijuana, or net neutrality.
I posted this in the other thread, but if you think this won't affect non-EU european countries, then think again. I live in Switzerland and many American sites were still blocked because of GDPR despite it not applying here. They'll just blanket-block the entire continent and be done with it. Furthermore, Britain voted for this. They'll implement something very similar themselves.
I mean, that'd mean they're out on ass and elbows next election. Their biggest core are pseudo-americans with out-of-touch ideas about wholly removing the public sector, privatizing everything and somehow watching it all NOT get overcharged, deadlines sliding indefinitely and everything going to shit. People are already tired of seeing shit that is already public sector get outsources to alleviate workload only to watch the project balloon from a fortnight schedule to 6-8 fucking months. The only thing keeping the current government in power is the fact that none of the opposition parties are taking any kind of stand and are trying to "make things work" while our functioning wellfare-state is being raped to reward career-politicians selling away our public sector for pocket-change and cushy jobs in the American private-sector. Come to think of it. We're fucked. Watch them follow up by mandating gaming lootboxes in the school curriculum after Belgium gets the rest of EU to wholesale ban them.
Swexit now
Big companies and the rich will use this to their advantage. Eu corruption at it's best.
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