What is even the point? There's legal marijuana in the states.
The US is a joke.
Because federally it's still illegal. This is just more evidence that the US needs to federally legalize because this half-and-half policy and the state/federal conflict is a gigantic quagmire.
The articles about this say that US border guards won't start asking every Canadian if they have ever had the toke-o loco. ...which just means we're getting into the wonderful world of profiling.
Allegedly, refusing to answer the question will result in being denied entry into the US and being turned back to Canada, but not a permanent ban.
Bullshit, the feds should challenge this shit.
Are you fucking shitting me
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and worse stuff under "moral requirement to make money" inanity
Actually, Trudeau offered a rather eloquent response:
“I certainly won’t work to assume or impress upon the U.S. who they have to let in or not. They have legalized marijuana in a number of their states and we’re trying to make sure that travel between our two countries is not disrupted.”
I can't find the story I read a couple days ago, but it was stated that Canadian and US officials are working together to try and sort out the border issues caused by Canada's legalization, but hard-sell pressuring America into reversing its border access policy with respect to Canadian pot users would not be on the table.
America just needs to fucking legalize on the federal level, already. That's the permanent solution to the Canadian/US border pot problem. But given things, I'm sure it's going to be like with gay marriage: Singleton US states legalize it, Canada legalizes it, US Supreme Court finally forces the fed's hand ten years later after Republicans spend years with their heads buried in the sand.
Oh nooo, what ever will I doooo
At most it is going to be in effect for two years, if you catch my drift.
This is the equivalent of banning anyone who owns or has ever owned a gun in the US from entering Canada.
In fairness, I think you'll agree that if a US (or Canadian) border guard asks "Have you ever used crack?" and the person says "yes", that is a justifiable reason to say naaaahhh you don't deserve the privilege to enter my country and be a potential risk.
Yes, pot is way way less harmful than crack, but in the US it's still a Schedule 1 drug, even though states have legalized. It's stupid but it's because America's pot policies are completely fucking dumb and broken.
I love how alcohol is grandfathered into being socially and morally acceptable, but using a far weaker drug could land you in debt, jail, bans, or even all three if you're caught with enough of it. Meanwhile Alcohol directly contributes to quite a lot of harm. And also we have doctors prescribing addictive Opioids in mass for profit.
For you Canadians this acts as a very good excuse to not come to America. Just stay away. Unless you have family or work, there isn't much here you're missing.
Not for our sake by the way, for your sake. You're better off staying in the winterlands until the US stops being cucked.
I was gonna say. I haven't tried, but I'm guessing I won't get turned away at the Canadian border just 'cause I happen to own guns that wouldn't be legal under Canadian law. As long as I'm not trying to import that stuff.
Right, because our border laws aren't retarded.
Wow huh seems impossible to enforce
Guess I'm not going to NY next summer lmao
Aw hell yeah, if I travel for a while and make it publicly known I did the marijuana in Canada do I get to stay there forever?
Well, considering the precedent set by sexual tourism, that if you leave the country to go commit a crime elsewhere and you're caught you can (and probably will) be punished as if you'd done it at home, it might not go so well.
Not enforceable, the U.S dosen't have a database that Canada is going to just let them tap to figure out whose dealing and carrying.
Oh, the other thing that I'd like to draw attention to: if a Canadian invests in the Canadian marijuana industry, such as one of the many listed on the New York Stock exchange, you will also be subject to the lifetime ban. Not once ever consuming marijuana in any fashion, investing in the industry, you will receive the ban.
Not really... If they've got a rap sheet indicating they're an addict, they're showing signs of being high at the border, or they're smuggling the shit, it's a different matter. If they've used crack at some point in their life before, that doesn't seem a good reason to bar entry.
Curb your Philadelphia
The US is not obligated to allow people who have committed criminal acts, past or present, punished or otherwise, into its borders. Admitting to using a Schedule 1 substance is admitting to criminal behaviour. If they asked "have you ever robbed a bank", someone who answers yes because they robbed a bank five years ago shouldn't expect to be let into the US.
It's entirely sensible as a general concept, but applying it to pot is monumentally stupid, and it's all because the US is completely fucked when it comes to pot and the war on drugs.
This is a good thing.
It just highlights how dumb weed is handled on the federal level and hopefuly will push legalization along.
“Our officers are not going to be asking everyone whether they have used marijuana, but if other questions lead there — or if there is a smell coming from the car, they might ask,” Owen said. Likewise, marijuana residue, which can linger for weeks inside a car, could be detected by CBP inspection dogs and lead to further questioning, he noted. If asked about past drug use, travelers should not lie, he said. “If you lie about it, that’s fraud and misrepresentation, which carries a lifetime ban,” Owen said.
If you get caught then you are an idiot.
If I'm reading the article correctly, they didn't change anything. They're just reminding you that if you're a pot grower or user or investor that you're still engaging in an a federally illegal trade and that has been and currently still is grounds to get turned around. And it's US Customs job to regulate border rules and this is one of them. Basically, they're saying just because Canada made it legal doesn't mean they're going to unregulate the proliferation of the trade across borders. Marijuana is federally illegal and USCBP is a federal agency. They don't care if it's legal in Washington and you're going from BC to Washington.
Basically they're continuing to treat the industry as if it was an illegal industry and the people who deal in that Industry are not allowed under current rules.
I forgot Kinder Eggs were illegal here in the States. I saw a few in a convenience store a day or two ago.
Come to Portland via the NS ferry, weed’s legal here, folks smoke on the eastern promenade and no one gives a shit about it and we protest the shit out of Republicans on a daily basis.
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