• This young girl composed this absolutely incredible Violin concerto
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os8fFmEmRZE&feature=youtu.be She is so fucking great. She's like a modern Mozart - seriously. Just look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvECZ_ZXGqs
C H I L D P R O D I G Y Honestly by this point, the number of times I've read about a child being considered a "prodigy" has ruined that word for me now.
I think a lot of them get bored of it, but I think it's relevant here because she wrote this. Writing is much more than just playing a tune. Most prodigies are just great players - that means nothing really, not in today's classical environment. She's a fucking fantastic composer though.
yeah shes alright i guess
I guess I'm just weird for enjoying classical so much, but I guess playing piano is partly the reason for that.
That was really good.
I wonder how many of them grow up being an 'Adult Nothing'
You guys are so cynical. I'm British - we're supposed to be the cynical ones.
Happens when there's 7 fucking billion people on the planet.
I think a lot of child prodigies do or at least it tapers off - They have amazing gifts far ahead of other kids their age but as they get older other people start catching up. Having to work hard to get to that position could also give their peers an upper hand on them as they have always been naturally gifted as well. Not saying it's true for all highly gifted children, and I'm sure they are still good later on, the question is whether or not they have peaked at that age and aren't going to go any further.
I think a lot of people are missing the point that it's her composition and that she's not simply playing some random piece by a famous person. Most prodigies are just good at playing the instrument.
i wouldn't even go as far to call people who are good at instruments "prodigies" instrument playing is only half the battle. if you can't come up with anything then your instrument is useless unless you can find someone who can cover for your lack of ability as a songwriter. similarly there's people out there who could be excellent songwriters, but will never get an opportunity to show their talent because they can't play an instrument and can't find anyone who's willing to hear them out. it's clear she's put a lot of time into practicing improvisation, so while it might look impressive that she can come up with something in just a few minutes after being given 4 notes, what she's actually doing is just taking patterns she already knows - either ones she's come up with herself, or ones she's learned from other composer's works, transposing them so they fit the key of the four notes given, and piecing them together as she goes. standard improvisation technique. by no means a modern mozart, unfortunately. just another talented musician who happens to be pretty young and is lucky enough to get to do this sort of stuff with a live band and get attention for it. also she sounds like a stereotypical rich kid
Yeah this is pretty great! People definitely seems to be missing the fact it's her own composition too. Writing and playing her own composition with such skill at a young age is really impressive. I think she has a pretty bright future ahead of her assuming she continues her path as a musician.
I improvise plenty on the piano and, whilst I'm pretty good at it, it's totally incorrect to imply that this is simply reusing patterns - she is likely calculating it all by ear as she plays. There are so many chord variations, bass notes, etc., that whilst we can, to a certain extent, know where things are going to go fairly easily, it's quite another thing entirely to be able to write a violin concerto.
I think to add as well, while there are indeed plenty of kids out there and people who were kids at her age that displayed a great amount of skill and talent, even beyond the realm of music, this doesn't take away the fact that she's still excelling a lot more than her average peers on the same age group. While most of us were playing video games, eating cereal while waiting for our favorite cartoons, watching funny animals on the internet and picking our noses at the age of 12, she's playing at a concerto with her own composition with hundreds of people live and thousands more on the screen watching, with experienced adult teachers and composers acknowledging her talent. Yes there are other people right there right now that are just as good if not better than her, but the fact she's already on that kind of level at her age really sets up her potential to be really amazing in the future the farther she grows as a person and a musician.
Even though it's in the thread title, are people missing the fact that she composed the piece in the video? She began playing piano since age 2, violin at 3, improvising and composing by 4 (Mozart started at age 5 for comparison), wrote her first piano sonata at age 6, an opera at age 7, another opera at 8, and a whole list of others. I'm pretty sure it's fair to say she is definitely a prodigy when it comes to music.
I found it pretty depressing how dismissive so many people were of her incredibly impressive skills. And yeah, I wasn't actually being hyperbolic when I spoke about her being like a new Mozart, at least if she sticks with it. People seem to be mixing up playing and composing in the thread consistently, so not sure if I worded it badly. My guess is that she has superbly musical parents, so has great genes, but that because she started playing so early, her brain picked things up quickly. I have perfect pitch an average of 5/12 times with 12/12 relative, but apparently perfect pitch really gets drilled in to us only when we play an instrument before 6 years old. That certainly helps, but there's obviously a lot of other core elements for what makes a composer great. I'd say there are three things a composer needs Skill in an instrument/voice An excellent ear A compositional mind Surprisingly, points 2 and 3 don't necessarily go together. I have a very active musical imagination and a good ear, but you really need a mind-bogglingly great ear to be truly successful at writing classical pieces like this. My piano teacher has an absolutely incredible ear, but his compositions aren't at all good - I was shocked, but that's the thing about them.
Anyone can become a "prodigy" at anything if they start doing it extremely young, at least that's what I think. Her talent is no doubt impressive but unsurprising considering how she was raised. Watching prodigies is a bit frustrating IMHO. You can always become as good as them if you practice long enough but you can never be as good as them and as young as them.
That's not at ALL true. A lot of musical ability is genetic, although nurture helps too. Once you're a bit older, no amount of practise will get you even 10% to where this girl is unless you have an even great innate talent. I'm sorry, but that's just a fact. Also, why can't you just be happy to see somebody doing something they love? I love writing music, and whilst I am of course jealous of her abilities, I think it's sweet and I'm happy for her.
I'm not saying I'm not. Seeing people do what they love and being good at it is always a joy to witness. At the same time, all this time I'm using watching other people be good at things could be much better spent doing the same thing for yourself.
Perhaps seeing people do wonderful things like this is what inspires us to work harder on those things in the first place? I only learnt piano because my ex girlfriend was great, and now I'm pretty great too.
Exactly. That's about all I can take from these videos. Even if I can't be as good as that girl, seeing her play at least inspires me to try. (I'm only a beginner pianist myself)
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