• Stephen Miller wins again: Nikki Haley, others excluded from immigration meeting
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/stephen-miller-wins-again-haley-other-foes-excluded-immigration-meeting-n910776?icid=recommended WASHINGTON — Days before the Trump administration announced plans to slash the number of refugees allowed into the U.S. to its lowest level in 40 years, Trump senior adviser and immigration hard-liner Stephen Miller made his case for fewer refugees to a room of senior officials at the White House. His sales job was made easier by the absence of top officials who disagree with his stance. They weren't there because they weren't invited, according to two people briefed on the discussions. Missing from the room last Friday were U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley and the head of the U.S. Agency for International Development, Mark Green, both of whom have promoted a more generous policy toward refugees fleeing poverty, famine and persecution, the two sources said. The planned cut in the refugee cap, now just 30,000 for the coming fiscal year, is the latest win for Miller, who has outmaneuvered opponents in and outside the administration to push through a crackdown on all forms of immigration. In the administration's internal discussions, Defense Secretary James Mattis — who was also absent from the Friday meeting — and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had consistently opposed reducing the ceiling for how many refugees could be allowed into the country next fiscal year, former officials, humanitarian experts and congressional staffers from both parties told NBC News. But after the meeting of top officials at the White House, Pompeo unveiled plans Monday to scale back the cap for refugees in 2019 to its lowest level since 1980. The secretary gave no explanation as to why he had changed his position, or how that number was arrived at during the closed door "principals" meeting. "Pompeo got rolled," said one former official familiar with the deliberations who served under Republican and Democratic administrations. The secretary "got manhandled by a kid who knows nothing about foreign policy," said the source, referring to the 33-year-old Miller. Paving the way for Miller, an official at the National Security Council, Jennifer Arangio, a political appointee who worked on President Donald Trump's campaign, was fired and escorted from her office in July after clashing with Miller over refugee-related issues. And two refugee skeptics aligned with Miller are now in senior positions at the State Department: Andrew Veprek at the Bureau for Population, Refugees and Migration and John Zadrozny at the policy planning office. Miller was once part of a small group of outsiders working as staffers on Capitol Hill who backed an aggressive line on immigration but often found themselves out of favor with the Republican Party establishment. Miller and his allies have even promoted the creation of a denaturalization task force, which is supposed to ferret out people who lied on their applications and to strip them of their citizenship.
Deport Miller to Antarctica, see how he likes it.
Outside of treason, I continue to find the idea someone can be stripped of citizenship to be incredibly scary.
Transylvania, surely? That's where vampires live.
Anywhere warmer will melt the chunk of ice in his chest where a heart is supposed to be.
the fact that someone can be stripped of citizenship for trivial paperwork errors after the fact is increadibly scary, espeically when they're continually shoveling more and more paperwork onto the pile. The process for citizenship is insane and purposefully so.
I'm not on-board for it happening to people who didn't provide information they were not asked for/instructed to by immigration authorities to give/etc. that was deemed necessary after the fact or otherwise was missed by someone on our end (barring serious things, like criminal record never being processed), but I don't have a problem with people who misrepresent their history/family members history/credentials/criminal records/etc. having it be revoked and them removed if it ever comes up after they're here. If you're already committing crimes just to get in the country,, that's probably one great reason to want you not associated with its citizens and out of it.
literal rogue agents controlling the united states of america i am less and less confortable sharing a border with a country being piloted by a bunch of maniacs
but then how are illegal immigrants supposed to ever become legal if the act of attempting to become legal defacto makes them ineligable? they're people, they're here, they often have been here for years to decades and they have no pathway to citizenship
Deport people who came here illegally altogether. No crime lets you keep the spoils of committing it, illegal immigration or overstaying is no different. I'm talking about people who the system either failed to process correctly through no fault of their own and produced all the information they were asked for, or people who tried to game the system and misrepresent themselves.
So then what about dreamers who did not commit any crime of their own volition, and have no ties to any other country? They are also totally illegal and have no pathway to becoming citizens
FYI, irregular immigration isn't a crime, you're simply violating the rules of the proper immigration process. These people people aren't going to prison, they're retroactively being denied entry. "Illegal immigration" is a term fabricated by the right to dehumanise law-abiding immigrants for the offense of seeking a better life in a richer country.
Illegal Entry is explicitly a crime (which is why you can be fined and imprisoned for it, even, since you're are criminal), and those who do go through with it are illegal immigrants. This is all easily provable. Is it a Crime to Enter The U.S. Illegally? https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325 INA: ACT 276 Who gave you the misinformation you based your opinion on?
Thank God we still have heroes like LilSnek willing to look past the human exterior and see those kids for the criminals they are. Into the camps they go.
U.S. immigration law actually uses the term "improper entry," which has a broad meaning. Did you read your own article? Here's what the U.N. has to say about it: Irregular migration - Movement that takes place outside the regulatory norms of the sending, transit and receiving countries. There is no clear or universally accepted definition of irregular migration. From the perspective of destination countries it is entry, stay or work in a country without the necessary authorization or documents required under immigration regulations. From the perspective of the sending country, the irregularity is for example seen in cases in which a person crosses an international boundary without a valid passport or travel document or does not fulfil the administrative requirements for leaving the country. There is, however, a tendency to restrict the use of the term "illegal migration" to cases of smuggling of migrants and trafficking in persons. In any case, if "no crime lets you keep the spoils of committing it, illegal immigration or overstaying is no different" as you put it why would the US over the last several decades grant amnesty to irregular immigrants on a regular basis? Perhaps it's because it's not only impractical to treat otherwise law-abiding immigrants as criminals but actually counter-productive to the goal of incentivising people to go through the proper channels to get their case processed? After all, you can't determine if an immigrant is qualified for entry or not if they actively avoid you because you'll put them in concentration camps even if they are asylum seekers who UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW can't be turned away without their case going in front of a judge.
Miller is such a sociopath, really scary how people like him can be in such positions of power.
It can be such a mess, a couple days before my coworker should have gotten his citizenship for his last batch of paperwork he was told what he had wasn't up to date and he should go about the process from a completely different angle. It didn't end up delaying anything thankfully but I could easily see this being used for bullshit after someone has been trying to prove something one way for years just to have it switched up on them at the last minute.
The sooner we un-exhume whatever grave they found Stephen Miller in the better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7OriIfmRFY&t=11s refresher for those unfamiliar with mr. miller
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