EU must end new petrol and diesel car sales by 2030 to meet climate targets
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New petrol and diesel car sales in Europe must be phased out before 2030 if the auto sector is to play its part in holding global warming to the Paris agreement’s 1.5C goal, a new analysis has found.
Forecourt plug-in hybrids will also have to disappear by 2035 at the latest, according to analysis by the German Aerospace Centre (DLR), commissioned by Greenpeace.
Vehicle emissions have barely changed over the last decade and the industry will exhaust its carbon budget within five to 10 years unless there is a radical shift, the DLR scientists say.
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The study warns that “stark measures” would be needed to do this with a 66% chance of meeting the 1.5C goal – including a drop in conventional car sales from around 15m this year to 5m in 2022.
Under this scenario, the last vehicle with an internal combustion engine would be sold in 2028 and diesel and petrol powered-cars would be banished from the roads by the mid-2040s.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/sep/20/eu-must-end-new-petrol-and-diesel-car-sales-by-2030-to-meet-climate-targets-report
This is why you don't set deadlines that may be hard to meet!
I hope they can do it, though! Good Luck!
Sadly I'm not optimistic, I'll eat my words but I don't think we're gonna get anything good done in a decent time frame.
Lol, not happening.
I think there's a moderate chance we could see new ICE cars mostly gone by 2030 in Europe. We are seeing quite good uptake in most countries, and now more affordable 300 mile EVs are coming to market.
Yeah, that's not happening realistically at any scale.
Germany intends to do it, which will likely mean the EU will follow. The UK has committed to 2040 but there's a lot of pressure for bringing it forward.
Can't speak for mainland Europe, but here in Finland the average car is 12.7 years old.
Cars are bloody expensive, most people can't afford to buy the latest.
It'll be a good while until we can even think about not having ICE cars around.
EU must end NEW petrol and diesel car sales
I think the EU can do it but I think Gas->EV conversions will be about as good as Windows 7 -> 10 conversions for many years
I think it's possible seeing how far we've come in 10 years. At least to have most new cars being EV's by then. There's still a few automakers that are fighting the switch, though.
What an arbitrary and lax deadline tbh.
That's cause it is. 2015 was our cut off by most general accounts.
The earlier the better really but we still have time to do stuff.
Tesla are ramping production pretty quickly now:
https://twitter.com/cbotnyse/status/1043946539893366784?s=19
Random highway in Oregon.
Saw maybe about a hundred of them in a parking lot nearby a local service center. Some still with the wrapper on. Mostly Model 3. Last time I drove past there they didn't have any except for a dude visiting the supercharger. Houston TX area.
Simply making the switch to EVs won't cut it, there's a lot more that could be done. Merely carpooling in a ICE vehicle is more efficient in terms of CO2 emission than solo commuting in an EV in a lot of countries, for instance. That vehicles designed to carry 4-5 persons only carry a single driver most of the time is absurd in the first place, it's a waste of space, energy, and create traffic jams that shouldn't exist.
We need to rethink the way we use cars to make smarter use of them, and stop using them where better alternatives can be pursued. The focus these days seems to be on keeping everything the same and just change the inner workings of our tools. It should be on thinking about what we use those tools for in the first place and asking ourselves whether other tools would achieve the same goal more efficiently.
So I may be completely off the mark, but from the reading I've done I was under the impression that cars were the least of our problems? That the problems they cause are kinda localised. Aren't energy production and industrial waste touted as the major forms of pollution? Wouldn't both be ramped up even more if we mass switched over to EVs?
But I mean even then, isn't the problem how we design our lives? Everything being based on plastic and metal, urban sprawl, driving everywhere, factory farming and mass deforestation. I know that getting rid of gas guzzlers would help, but it seems like an insanely simplistic policy to just say "we should probably stop using petrol cars" especially considering that manufacturing new cars generates pollution and running new cars still uses non-renewable greenhouse gas energy.
At its most base, consumerism and capitialism are basically what has lead us into that hole. Do you see a way out? Removal of work and automating everything won't come close to that, in fact it'll accelerate it.
Should be by 2020
I didn't mean physical conversion of cars, I meant people converting from being IC owners to EV owners, as in buying a new EV
https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/air-pollution-uk-transport-most-polluting-sector-greenhouse-gas-emissions-drop-carbon-dioxide-a8196866.html
EVs are pretty great, and the vast majority of owners love them. In Europe the cost of running is stupidly low compared to an ICE, you've got instant torque, quietness, and if you can charge at home then it's far more convenient.
I agree, I'd love an EV. Most of my driving is within 30-40 miles of my house so the fear over the 300 mi limit isn't really a problem for me as long as I remember to charge it.
It just becomes part of your routine once you've had it for a week or so, and most EVs can send an alert to your phone saying it's unplugged. I do 70 miles a day in an EV with an EPA range of 101 miles, and I'm doing a 600 mile road trip on Sunday and don't expect any issues.
I can't see electric cars taking off in Rural Ireland in the next 30 years. There's simply no infrastructure and money. I mean we don't even have fibre optic broadband. Some areas don't even have clean running water. Most cars here a bit like what the Finnish poster said 12 years old or more.
On the other hand, conversion is way cheaper (and most likely less impactful on the environment) than scrapping the whole thing and getting a new car. Then consider you'd have plenty of space left from the now absent engine and gas tank, fitting all of the required bits shouldn't be that hard.
I'm not saying every single car can be converted with no issues, but it's something worth researching for people who can't afford a whole new car, don't want to part with a vehicle they like but still want to be eco-friendly, or both.
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