Just means more people are using electric scooters because of their availability
Get the fuck out of my way
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How do you injure yourself on that thing so bad that you have to be hospitalized? I can only think of scootering into traffic, cactus, or down a ledge. They're not that fast are they?
Not everyone who goes to the ER has a gaping wound or broken arm. A lot of people go to the Hospital for trivial shit, due in part to them either not having access to things such as outpatient clinics or similar non-emergency medical care options.
They're actually very fast. You're also supposed to ride them with a helmet and in bike lanes, which people don't do.
They're good fun and I really hope they don't get a reactionary van because they're usually safe, but you could easily injure yourself if your drunk ass crashes the wrong way at 15mph.
Hell, I'd watch the hell out of it
This is why you only ride gas powered scooters.
i hate these things for one reason and one reason only: my neighbor is a charger for that bird scooter shit and he charges them against our shared wall and it's the noisiest shit i've ever heard like he's ramming them against the wall at full speed or some shit
otherwise they're good, just wish people would actually wear helmets on em cuz it's a hazard
i saw a bunch of those electric scooters in downtown cincinnati. i think it's a pretty neat idea, but people are idiots and they'll probably get banned by knee-jerk reactions from city officials
People injure themselves riding these things because they're being seeded in popular, congested cities and most of the people riding them are wearing no helmet, barreling past people on sidewalks, or blowing stop signs.
These things are just toys for rich kids and they've become a total fucking menace. They're exclusively ridden by tourists and tech bro fucks, titled over in the middle of every other sidewalk, and in spite of these companies mission to "make the world a better place" or whatever most of their boards are just suits who heretofore worked in exotic finance and are just trying to make a quick buck before they obviously pivot into something that isn't totally retarded.
Living amidst this scooter phenomenon makes you feel like you're living in some corporate amusement park so having a cavalcade of Chads buzz you like the Blue Angels every time I leave my house has a nice cherry on top of seeing my city and my neighborhood get gentrified into a shopping mall for people who used to be too afraid to live within 30 city blocks of a brown person.
I hate them.
They cost a dollar.
I once got a cut in my thump, a really good deep 5/16th inch, was told 'I need stitches' by coworkers
Healed fine, don't even have a scar. Took maybe a week.
If you stop bleeding, it's not that deep, and you don't see bone, you're probably fine. I wish people stopped overblowing wounds.
I know. So does the bus, which actually gets you to your job and not just the six blocks between brunch and the city lot you parked your car in.
Unless you're in Denver, which despite the scooter itself says to not use sidewalks that's actually the only place you're supposed to be using them.
Also, these companies staged a fake protest in LA, or somewhere, at the city hall when they got banned (they payed random people $5 to attend) and all the companies sent their employees wearing their start-up swag and waving "picket signs" consisting of sheets of A-4 written on in sharpie. They paid a bunch of busty chicks to twerk on their scooters. For real.
Your point being? They're for different purposes, one is a bus and the other is like a fun commuter transport method that you don't need to worry about carrying around with you a dnd that you don't need to worry about chaining or being stolen/damaged.
What rock have you guys been living under?
Then again you might not be in some metropolitan city.
I mean they're kinda dangerous
You can easily hack the firmware on the Xiaomi electric scooters and make them go 35kmh/20mph with just a press of a button (both of my coworkers did that)
I imagine you could get injured really badly if you crash at those speeds
A fun commuter transport with a 161% and rising number of attributable ER vists. Come on, man. They're a poor excuse for some valley startup to lap up series funding for a while before they move on to something else. How do you think these business models are going to be profitable in cities like Seattle and Portland where it rains like nine months a year? Anywhere there's winter? These scooters are going to get trashed just being out on the streets, they're competing among each other, with bikes, with public transit. They're in a stage where they're not yet regulated by city DOTs, which will probably run their overhead up even higher. We're talking about American cities too. People commute large distances to work. It's so transparently nonviable and it's not the concept itself I object to. There's some real potential to make an everyday, helpful means of mass travel that lets people be independent but this one's garbage.
First off, people go to the ER for anything, not only serious injuries. Also, of course the injuries have risen from the baseline, seeing as they were literally not being used before these services moved in. You know what a percentage raise is, right? If you had one injury in the first month and three in the second, that's a 300% raise in injury.
Oh, you're one of those people that hates "silicon valley types" regardless of what they do, makes sense.
Who said that the business has to be profitable in every city it's in at all times of the year? This is like saying that beachwear companies don't make sense because winter exists.
I don't see how competition = being trashed. Competition is good for the economy, as is trying new business models.
You seem to not know what people are actually using these for. They aren't for commuting to work, they're for getting around city centers (which are designed for cars, not pedestrians) in a reasonable manner. While I was living in San Jose, it was extremely convenient to be able to hop on one of these things when I wanted to go to the park or any non-university business, because essentially everything is a minimum of 2 miles away from everything else. Bikes aren't viable if you have nowhere to keep one or don't have to get around that often, but if you're in a metropolitan center and you want to be able to get around without worrying about parking, they're extremely convenient. Also, to jump back to your point about public transit; You live in a US city, you know how bad our public transport is.
If it's so garbage and clearly non-viable, then how are they getting funding? You realize that investors typically don't dump 400 million dollars into ideas that are obviously unprofitable, right?
People hate lots of things, doesn't mean that they're right.
Public transport in the US is total dogshit, and our cities are too spread out to get around on foot. I think that having rent-able scooters and bikes is an excellent idea, because it attempts to address a clear and present problem; Cities are built for cars, don't have enough parking, and city government is historically terrible at constructing public transport that gets anywhere close to solving the problem. The scooters will either sink or swim, and people will eventually figure out the socially acceptable way to use them, as well as cities individually deciding how they want to regulate them the same way that every other method of transport did.
I wouldn't mind the scooters if they had areas where you are supposed to park them. It's annoying to see them ditched on your front lawn or sidewalk.
The whole point is that you don't have to find a dropoff spot, which is why they're a massive improvement over city bikes.
I know that at least Bird requires that you park the scooter out of the way of the sidewalk and not on private property that isn't yours and that you can get charged if you fail to do so (they require that you take a photograph after you park it, and give specific instructions on how to leave them).
i would rather have scooters on the sidewalk in front of my building than more traffic in my city
I was thinking more those European "ciao" scooters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxQYE3E8dEY&t=50s
How is that where your mind went?
They're cheaper than electric bikes, and just as effective.
I've never seen anyone other than me with one, so I'd say they aren't much of a menace
He's talking about the ones here in the states where you can just basically rent them with an app, then leave them at your destination off to the side for either another person to rent or to be picked up for charging or maintenence.
Well yeah that seems like it wouldn't work very well.
I ride them alot in SJ lol.
Lime Bikes are aight
I used something called BIRD where it's battery powered but it's alot faster.
Just going chime in here real quick.
These scooters started showing up about a month ago in my city, which has rather good public transit, and have been a constant source traffic congestion, safety violations, and city clutter.
I can't stand them, and I hope they get regulated out of existence. Our city also has a good bike-share program, and I can't stand these companies coming in, throwing thousands of scooters around cluttering up already tight walking space, and making a profit off of public grounds.
They're much worse than bikes, IMO. At least bikes have a larger silhouette, and accelerate slower, whereas these scooters don't present much larger than a person, and can go considerably quick. Just spend a few minutes in my downtown, and you can see tons of these things blowing through stopsigns, red lights, and in general being a fucking nuance to bikers, pedestrians, and road traffic. Just a couple weeks ago there was a crash involving 3 of the scooters outside my work, closed down two whole lanes of traffic in the middle of a main thoroughfare.
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