You see, GOP, the accusations only work if they're backed up by some semblance of fact.
this is such a bizarre thing to say it almost strikes me as preemptive projection, as if perhaps a staffer is gonna be talking to CNN soon
“You just tried to slip in that there were complaints against me, and that is completely false,” Kaine said.
“How do we know that?” Stewart shot back.
“Oh, so you just think you can make it up,” Kaine said
He's just putting the burden on Kaine to prove he didn't do something, which is... not how any of this works
Corey Stewart is a straight up bona fide neo-Confederate. Virginia's other senator, Republican Mark Warner endorsed Kaine over him.
What a rookie way to attempt character assassination. I mean c'mon, at least try to go out and find someone to pay off to lie about it. Busting out a "but how do we know you didn't" at a debate just makes you look like a desperate jackass.
It's all about image, substance and truth don'treally matter, feels over reals. You put it out there and GOP voters will parrot it, maybe a couple will even step forward to accuse him
Props to Kaine for cal
Corey Stewart is losing his race, hard. Kaine has something like a 30 point lead on him or something.
He's been a pain in Virginia's ass for the last few years.
https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/1045360677408395264
The GOP are total scumbags
The classic Republican strategy of muddying the waters.
And people still wonder why it's hard to come out about rape?
Weird. I can think of one instance over the last year where this exact thing happened and the democrat in question stepped down and resigned over it. Hmm.
This originally threw me off. When I reread it, it made me laugh a lot.
However: Tim Kaine was Warner's Lieutenant Governor and desired successor. Kaine's always followed in Warner's footsteps and laughably so.
But yeah, going back through made me realize how many of his positions aren't so star-spangled blue stamped on the ass of an ass. That being said, Virginia would follow Warner in a bid for the Presidency with voters from both parties. In some ways he was honestly a more viable Clinton than, well, Clinton.
Sounds like its time for some slander lawsuits.
This is what we get when we grant ultimate credibility to accusers with little no evidence. Yes, there are legitimate concerns of women not coming forward due to stigma and status of men, but we are facing a precedent of these allegations being used a political fodder: whether they are true or false. I saw this with extreme for victims; they should not be used as political pawns.
It became especially clear by the precedent Feinstein set by delaying the announcement of the allegations at the 11th hour, fully knowing that an FBI investigation would be necessary, thus furthering the confirmation hearing and intending that a blue-wave would block any conservative justices of being confirmed. I want Kavanaugh to face the full consequences of actions if they are indeed true, but everything reeks of partisan hackery rather than legitimate concern for the Blasey Ford.
The GOP is just as subject to disgusting tactics, in fact, sometimes more often. The primary takeway is that both sides of the political aisle are capable of pretty disgusting tactics to progress their agenda with little regard to the precedent to their actions.
I know we live in the stupid age, but it would be nice if everyone that did this was hit with slander/libel charges.
I mean I do agree accusations of rape should go through court before a guilty verdict is given, but I don't think the general push to get victims to speak out is responsible for dicks like this to abuse it
Dude, the timing for Kavanaugh was basically a last ditch effort to get justice and prevent him from getting the SCOTUS position.
Why exactly is this scummy? And how is that in any way, shape or form comparable to the vile bullshit the GOP pulls?
Mark Warner is a Democrat
Wait I saw on reddit he was a republican, oops
I mean, devil's advocate here, is that not what's happening with Kavanaugh in a way? I mean the allegations against him sound credible, I don't like Kavanaugh and I personally lean towards the belief that he is guilty of what Ford accuses him of. But at the end of the day there's still no actual evidence proving that he's guilty, and Democrats are putting the burden on him to prove his innocence essentially. Obviously they're very different scenarios because in Kavanaugh's case you have a woman publicly offering testimony under oath about what happened, whereas this is just some dumb cunt saying "how do we know you're not a rapist?", but the rise of sexual abuse allegations as a political weapon in the past year or two has been significant and it's a little naive to think nobody is going to take advantage.
I'm not remotely convinced that Ford is some sort of political operative brought up to take down kavanaugh, that's dumb as hell.
No.
This is proof we need to believe these people enough to launch investigations to either corroborate their stories, or invalidate them as the facts show.
It proves that this imbalance in power is clear as fucking day, and can be remedied as easily as pulling the curtain back and exposing shit to the light.
It's not at all what happened with Kavanaugh. The accusations against him are very credible. The accusations against Tim Kaine are literally shit flinging by a political opponent during a debate to try and get an edge. I don't know how you could possibly conflate the two even when playing devil's advocate honestly.
I am not at all denying there should have been an investigation; my point was that this entire process was purposely politicized without any concern for either Blasey Ford nor Kavanaugh. There should have been a FBI investigation 2 months ago to look at the validity of these claims. Now, republicans are stuck between a rock and a hard place because they recognize the valid concern that Blasey Ford could have credible allegations but she's been used by Feinstein to delay the confirmation through midterms with the hope that the majority would swing in their favor.
Of course it was done without regard to her, the Republicans have been playing the game that women who come out with sexual assault allegations are actually the fucking villains for 40 fucking years dude.
Apparently, it works, because you do actually believe it at some level enough to argue it.
Feinstein didn't do anything wrong for once. Not one person has explained what she did wrong by vetting and ensuring Ford wasn't a liar before even letting it go public.
They're not stuck in between a rock and a hard place. When it comes to properly carrying out justice there is no hard decision. You carry out justice. Because justice is not a partisan political game.
Never did I say anything of the like. In fact, it's pretty shitty that you're alluding that I think justice is partisan. I've made my point incredibly clear: we would be seeing an entirely different situation play out right now if midterms were not right around the corner.
Where did I say you think it's partisan? I was kinda implying that the politicians in charge here are treating it as a partisan game. Something that I wasn't terribly unclear on.
No we really wouldn’t
this is a life time nomination going to a person who believes presidents should be immune to investigations and other oversight functions.
This is literally a fascist plot to take government control at the highest levels for the next 30-40 years.
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