• Why Meat is the Best Worst Thing in the World - Kurzgesagt
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxvQPzrg2Wg&t=0s
https://pics.me.me/sesame-street-elmos-lunch-is-interrupted-by-the-local-vegan-27796209.png Yeah no thanks, I already know that we're cruel. I'll wait for lab meat if those are any good.
The video doesn't shout, it's a pretty mild calm summary of the whole landscape.
They put way to much focus on the animal cruelty aspect. Also organic has nothing to do with animal cruelty, but rather the lack of use if "evil" chemicals.
one of the reasons why I can't stand wasting food... all that effort, energy and resource that goes into making the steak on your plate - better not fucking waste any of it
Organic labels are a joke, slightly less cruel treatment in return for huge resource waste. Dont get me started on organic vegies and others though that tout not being gmo
it drives me up the wall when people order $20+ dishes at restaurants to only eat less than half and throw away the rest
Friendly reminder: There's a space between continuing to eat meat as you've always done, and going full vegan. Ideally everybody should just eat less meat.
I think it was like your max a week should be 90 ounces at max.
From what I've heard there's no need to eat meat once per meal or even once per day. Apparently 2-3 times a week is already more than enough. So you can definitely cut your meat consumption in more than half without developing any health issue. Even better if you prioritize more environmentally friendly meats like chicken and only leave things like beef for festivities or nights out.
One of the biggest problems with meat production today is that most of it has automated. Just as the video says, meat was luxury which is half right. It wasn't so much a luxury and more like you had to go to the local butcher, get specific cuts and the expense was big enough because you were paying for the butcher's salary and business that you could only get what you needed. I work in a meat department and hearing the stories from the 60 year old butcher about how not only was meat expensive but it just straight up tasted better because a lot of the steers they got weren't from factory farms.
Yeah if anything the whole antibiotics and environment fuckery surrounding the meat industry is way more convincing than the cruelty.
So in a way you could say that high quality meat has remained a luxury. I wouldn't say it's "way more convincing", both are good points honestly. However, between our survival and animals' well-being, I'd choose the former.
Just eat less meat. If you eat 2-4 good vegetarian meals a week that you enjoy, you're changing the world. A lot of meat in things is utterly pointless and adds nothing.
To be honest, I don't know many recipes that don't involve meat.
Learn some.
Try looking into dishes from other regions, plenty of vegetarian dishes to find there. British cousine, just like here in Norway, uses meat for almost everything. It's much better learn recipes that are originally meat free instead of trying to substitute meat in familiar dishes. Learn to make a vinaigrette with vinegar, mustard and oil for salads (its very quick), and maybe give some vegetable stew dishes a go. I recently learnt how to make shakshuka Shakshuka Recipe and Video | The Mediterranean Dish, which is tasty without using any meat. Feel free to cut out some of the ingredients if you try that recipe, no need to make it overly complicated.
For me, I eat meat maybe once a week. I've learned that mushrooms are pretty badass and meaty, and replace a lot of my meat intake with them
no I think they put exactly as much emphasis as it should have tbh
Meat will be the one sin I'll never give up Let me have this fuckin' indulgence
You don't have to give it up. You could just eat less of it, which would probably be healthier for you (depending on how often you have meat), as well as for the environment.
Find and learn one that you like, and add that to your weekly shop. That's the first step.
Pretty much every meal my family eats has at least one meat product, and the meals are considered lacking if there isn't any meat in it. This is probably the norm for at least most american families and is ingrained in family tradition at this point.
You can be vegetarian and still be totally fine health wise since eggs/cheese/other animal derived products still contain the sorts of things commonly found in meat but if cruelty is the reason those industries aren't much better. B12 is the only tricky thing which can't really be included in a 100% plant based diet but loads of foods, cereals, marmite, nutritional yeast etc contain B12 now and there's always supplementation if necessary (Which for loads of people seems to be the end of the world yet we take loads of pills for loads of other things, I would be most people who are against a plant based diet on the grounds of taking multivitamins statistically probably aren't getting everything they should be from their diet anyway) Even then people who aren't getting enough B12 can go for years before any deficiency symptoms start to develop which are reversed by starting to get the required B12. I eat a plant based diet and I hate salad/leafy greens, mushrooms and a few different common vegetables but I cook nice interesting meals every night and easily get 5-10 portions of fruit/veg a day while our monthly food bill is less than half that of some of our friends.
It's very easy to cook without meat, especially Indian, Asian and Mediterranean meals. Buy the cooking book 'Thug Kitchen' for super easy recipes if you want to give it a crack, really funny and informative too.
Traditions can change, and they need to. Australian families eat lots of meats too, but at least things like the classic Aussie backyard barbecue are rather infrequent, and they are primarily a social thing as opposed to a fuck yeah let’s eat meat. I love meat, but yeah, it really is ideal for everyone to minimise meat consumption. I only eat meat once per day, often in small portions with lots of filler from rice, pasta or potatoes, and am currently trying to get meat consumption down to only 3-4 times per week. Good places to start are vegetarian pizzas as opposed to meaty pizzas, and many Asian and Indian style recipes often allow for easy substitution of meat.
The Case for Sustainable Meat Good article about this.
I think lab-grown meat will be one of the most important and necessary inventions ever. I only wish it became mandatory worldwide, because if its even a little more expensive to produce you know well and good the free market wont support it to any meaningful impact.
After taking a long break from eating meat, going back to it, it just tastes dull. I can't speak for anyone but myself, but do give the whole vegetarian/vegan thing a try, see if any of it tastes good, hella worth it.
The moment we figure out how to make lab meat that tastes exactly the same, is the day we cure world hunger. Meat will be immensely cheaper due to the cutting out of feed, livestock holding, and butchery. Too bad it also means dairy will be more expensive as it's not part of the process.
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