PC Building V5 "needs extra thermal paste"

[Xarxes The Great]

Hey all, welcome to the PC Building thread. Want to build or upgrade? No problem, this is the place.
Resources
pcpartpicker.com – A fantastic resource for both comparing prices from many websites and doing some basic compatibility checks. To export in a format compatible with FP, select Export/Markup, then under format select BBCode. Then copy and paste the text in your post. The best part of all is that this site is available in many different regions and countries

Here are two excellent guides for the actual assembly of a system. It's actually fairly easy, and following a good guide like one of these, the chances to mess something up are extremely slim.
An excellent step-by-step guide using pictures, it is cleanly laid out and easy to follow
This is a multi-part Newegg YouTube series that is very long and comprehensive. Part 1 Part 2 Part 3

General Building/Component Tips
If you get hung up on any details, go ahead and ask. No question is stupid in the realm of blowing $1k on a new system.
Watch the quality of your PSU. It's not going to give you any extra performance, but a poor quality PSU can cause unnecessary stress on your component, causing them to age faster. Seasonic and rebrands such as XFX and Rosewill Capstone are excellent buys, as are SuperFlower units (and accompanying rebrand of the EVGA G2 series) and finally Delta units, most commonly they are found in Antec boxes. Check out the Antec HCP if you're in the market for a top notch PSU with high wattage. And please don't get a Corsair CX.
Watch out for motherboard compatibility. An 1150/1155 socket motherboard does NOT mean it will work out of the box with every CPU that fits. You need to watch out for refeshes and "ticks" in the architecture.
A good case can make or break a long term build. A good case is a dream to build in, and can both increase airflow and ease the process, while a bad case can bend, and leave some nasty cuts.
Don't listen to just one person for your build if you've got time to wait. People have bias', and can miss some nice deals that just dropped. Even Kiwi.
If you get hung up on any details, go ahead and ask. No question is stupid in the realm of blowing $1k on a new system.
Watch the quality of your PSU. It's not going to give you any extra performance, but a poor quality PSU can cause unnecessary stress on your component, causing them to age faster. Seasonic and rebrands such as XFX and Rosewill Capstone are excellent buys, as are SuperFlower units (and accompanying rebrand of the EVGA G2 series) and finally Delta units, most commonly they are found in Antec boxes. Check out the Antec HCP if you're in the market for a top notch PSU with high wattage. And please don't get a Corsair CX.
Watch out for motherboard compatibility. An 1150/1155 socket motherboard does NOT mean it will work out of the box with every CPU that fits. You need to watch out for refeshes and "ticks" in the architecture.
A good case can make or break a long term build. A good case is a dream to build in, and can both increase airflow and ease the process, while a bad case can bend, and leave some nasty cuts.
Don't listen to just one person for your build if you've got time to wait. People have bias', and can miss some nice deals that just dropped. Even Kiwi.
Check your motherboard's QVL, especially for Ryzen. This will ensure that your high-frequency RAM will actually be able to hit those advertised clocks. Ryzen 2000 does much better with RAM compatibility than Ryzen 1000 did but there are still snags in the way.

Recommended Power Supply Models
Here's just a quick list of model names that are generally recommended for a great quality unit that should last a long time without issues.
Seasonic: m12/S12/S12G/S12-II, XFX: TS/XTR/PRO, Superflower: Any, EVGA: G2/P2/T2/GS, Antec: HCG/TruePowerClassic/Earthwatts Green/Edge/HCP

Builds
There used to be a bunch of recommended builds here but they weren't super up-to-date and I don't really believe in "suggested builds," so I've left them out. http://www.logicalincrements.com/ is a really good jumping-off point, though, and if anybody has recommendations I'll post them here, just ping me or some shit idk

[Parallel_LCD]

So my 1TB Seagate HDD died on me, but thankfully I was able to recover all the data on the drive using ddrescue

People mentioned in the previous thread about the WD Gold drives, but I was wonder if I should just wait til the price of SDDs continues dropping

I don't need a replacement right away, I just need something in case my 4TB Toshiba HDD starts dying on me

[Crest]

For the Ryzen 2700x temp question, high idle could be due to cooling still. Load temps are misleading because anything over 3.7ghz is technically boosting. It might be 80c at 3.8ghz or 3.9ghz. But on a liquid cooler it might be 80c at 4.2ghz because it has more thermal headroom.

[Glitchvid]

It could also be spinning the fan down a ton depending on the fan curve.

[Mort Strudel]

Well, I've ordered everything.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r3d6yX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r3d6yX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($165.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($364.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: MSI - Optix G24C 23.6" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($204.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $1221.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-01 20:58 EDT-0400

After tax this ran me about $1400. Everything should be arriving friday, can't wait to never experience 25 fps again!

[Everything]

Trust me, it's gonna feel so good to absolutely murder games that gave your old system trouble

[Slayer3032]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSCVahyh3Dk

It always needs extra thermal paste

[chipsnapper]

I kinda wish I splurged on my motherboard back in the Skylake days so I could have M.2. Now I've got two SATA 500GB SSDs and I''d love to use one of them in an external enclosure or another build entirely.
Eh, there's always a Ryzen upgrade, right? Is Zen 2 around soon?

I want to just run the fuck away from Skylake. The security is swiss cheese and the patches slowed it down tons.

[Everything]

Weeeeeell... You could always RAID 0 the pair of them, if you don't mind shuffling your Windows install around to make that happen

RAID 0 might sound silly when you're talking about SSDs, but the speed increase is more than measurable, and real-world performance (general use, gaming, etc) can within spitting distance of many entry-level NVMe drives

https://images.techhive.com/images/article/2014/06/intel_ssd_raid-100315228-orig.png

[Everything]

My point is that it'd be faster than an individual SATA SSD by itself, and on par with M.2 or even NVMe in practical applications, while not requiring him to buy anything new

It would literally be a free increase of his system's potential maximum access speeds

[Rockeiro]

I'm thinking about upgrading my machine soon, I like having all my stuff open in the background while I have games open and it's starting to max out my cpu/RAM when running certain games, the gpu is still putting up a fight so I'm keeping it.
Thinking about upgrading to a ryzen 7 1700, 16 gigs of cheap DDR (is that a thing yet) and a 650 W PSU?
Current PSU is a CX500.

https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/222717/0fec264c-a0fb-4c09-ab81-dbcf0bc168b4/Speccy64_2018-10-02_19-39-53.png

[Rockeiro]

Fair enough I was going to side with the r7 for longetivty's sake, and a bit a beefire PSU in case the RTX 2070 turns out to be a decent upgrade path.

[AtomicSans]

The 2600X has better single-thread performance, which games like.

And yes, game loading is thoroughly bottlenecked by CPU at this point, since so many engines compile shaders, lightmaps, etc upon level load. Even a fast-ish HDD is good enough for games since modern games are mostly sequential.

[redBadger]

Can't wait for the new processors. I'm hoping the 9700k will be great. Going to probably grab that, 32 gigs of DDR4 ram, a 500 gig M.2 SSD. Going to be something along these lines, replacing the processor with the next gen and maybe a different mobo

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qw88zY

[Splash Attack]

No GPU?

[Slendermang]

What's a XXL mousepad that's got easy to clean material? I have hella sweaty hands so and I like to keep my shit immaculate.

[Glitchvid]

Just switch to the Airflow edition of the case.
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Obsidian-Series%E2%84%A2-750D-Airflow-Edition-Full-Tower-ATX-Case/p/CC-9011078-WW

[redBadger]

I have a 2080

[kakizc]

got a 1080ti to replace my 970 and I need to replace my i5 4690k along with it, what's a good motherboard and processor to keep up with this kind of graphics card? I haven't been keeping track on all the new things

[AtomicSans]

The Cooler Master Swift-RX is very easy to clean and is also one of the fastest mousepads out there. I think it's the best pad, period. Just be aware that mousepad friction and speed are subjective, and the Swift-RX is one of the smoothest, fastest ones available. Not everybody likes that.

[Glitchvid]

Mouse pads a yeah, very much a personal preference.

I can't stand fabric mousepads, which is a bit unfortunate, since solid pads are going out of style (Steeleries doesn't even make them anymore IIRC). I've also found solid pads to be the easiest to clean, and usually wear extremely well.

[Levelog]

If you like solid pads just get a slab of metal and cover it in teflon

[Glitchvid]

Great idea, and I can even put the radiator for my Vega 64 under it, then when I get hungry I can put on Furmark cook bacon and eggs!

[AtomicSans]

I've heard that high-sensitivity FPS players like rougher, slower pads because it keeps your aim smooth and more stable. But I play at very, very low sensitivities (~12-14" per 180 degrees turn) so my aiming requires really lightning-fast swipes. it's all preference~~

[Glitchvid]

I'm rocking a SteelSeries 4HD. Discontinued

[Xarxes The Great]

This is my current one and I love it

https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-FURY-Optimized-900x420x4mm-HX-MPFS-XL/dp/B0716ZHGKT

[AtomicSans]

Have you tried the Logitech G440? That's the only hard pad that's made RJN's top 20 pads and it looks good to me.

[redBadger]

The material can sometimes feel odd on my skin. Just me? I have this exact one

[AtomicSans]

I've been personally told this one is really good, I'm glad you found one you love.

[Levelog]

I just have a razer goliathus clone. It's good quality, but a plenty of people aren't a fan of how rough it is. Pretty happy with it and some hyperglides on my mouse.