Intel Core i7-9700K and 9900K will use solder, not paste - Sensationalist Headlines

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/277341-intel-core-i7-9700k-9900k-confirmed-to-use-solder-not-paste This is pretty old but I didn't see it anywhere. Intel's fucking scared of Zen 2.

delidders will not be deterred by this, they're already crazy enough to delid a processor. everybody else though, this is a great thing

I bet they still aren't going to come with decent stock coolers though, that's a massive advantage that Ryzen has for lots of consumers.

Intel does have AMD beat in terms of raw performance per core (as expected), but AMD is clawing Intel where it hurts currently. That being price/performance. I love my Ryzen 1700, but I know it doesn't beat something like a 7700K when it comes to game performance. However, it does plenty well enough for my needs, and for a fair bit less than the 7700K. If anything, I'm happy that AMD is at least competitive again. It's finally getting Intel off of their asses somewhat, and we may finally be getting big performance increases for CPUs again as a result. Now the real question is, will they do the same with their GPUs any time soon? NVIDIA admittedly has kinda underwhelmed with their RTX GPUs so far (with the 2080 just being an overpriced 1080ti), so in theory, that should give AMD enough time to at least attempt to close the performance gap and make a competitor. Maybe even make a more open alternative to RTX in the process as well.

Can't wait for Linus to liquid metal this one after delidding it.

I dont even know why, stock fans are pretty shit, and you can get a block with a high powered fan for like 20-30$.

As someone who had to delid their 7700k just to get below 80c stock in game, this is brilliant. Im so glad AMD is relevant again

Maybe. AMD's upcoming line of next-gen GPUs, Navi, is almost certainly just a 7nm die shrink and refresh of Vega, which sounds bad - but Vega isn't all that bad. Vega is actually pretty decent as a package. Vega 56 kinda shits all over the 1070 Ti when priced properly, and while Vega 64 has absurd power consumption, it really likes undervolting and can overclock to almost match a 1080 Ti for a much lower price. Vega just happened to be hit incredibly hard by the mining boom because Graphics Core Next is generally better at compute than actual video games, so miners wanted Vega more than gamers did. So the price is only just now becoming competitive with Pascal. GCN isn't a total dumpster fire. Pricing is they key. If AMD prices Navi significantly lower than Turing, which isn't very fucking hard to do, it'll probably become a really solid choice for gamers on a budget. At least, that's my prediction. Navi isn't going to be competitive because it's a new and revolutionary technology, like Ryzen was. I think it'll be competitive because AMD will just do what they do best with Radeons: make solid, kinda boring mid-range cards at attractive prices. And Turing's stupid high pricing is setting Navi up for success at the midrange.

Wasn't the loss of the market because AMD focused so hard on midrange?

Vega also does amazing in DX12 and Vulkan, maybe the fine wine approach might work after all 🤷‍♀️

Not really. AMD never really offered up a midrange Vega card, they just continued selling the RX 500 series in parallel, and they still do. Vega is decidedly mid-high-end (V56) and high-end (V64). However, AMD spent a few years prior to Vega consistently failing to offer up a good high-end card. The R9 390X was a good card, but that's about it, and it still wasn't as powerful as Nvidia's girthiest offerings. The Fury X remains a joke to this day.

I love being an AMD fan, because they aren't anti-consumer, anti-competition like Intel. They were always there for us. They never gave up on us. They came back fighting and INCEL IS SCARED.

They are still a company pursuing profits.

Lmao, someone drank the fucking Koolaid. If you think for a second that AMD wouldn't do exactly what Intel has done due to their position of power in the market, you're a fool.

Yeah if hillary won she would have been worse

Well that's one step in the right direction, now if only they'd work on a better stock cooler for the i5 series at least.

Imagine prices and specs of Intel/Nvidia if there was no AMD

I don't really play for a team and kinda just sit on the fence but honestly, Intel is far more shady and anti-competitive than AMD has been in the past. No doubt they both do unscrupulous things but you can't say that Intel isn't known for being underhanded.

Navi is going to be quite a bit more than a Vega refresh, how well it competes with other 7nm offerings is to be seen though. All leaks have pointed to the Vega team getting shafted in favor of Sony $$$ to develop Navi for the PS5, and consumer Navi is just going to be based off the console APU. GCN has problems, but it also does things right. Fun fact, Nvidia Turing takes a lot of inspiration from GCN's low level design elements, and if you look at titles where GCN did well (W:TNC, FC5, DX:MD) you can see significant performance improvement. However, GCN does have serious problems in its current iteration, namely comparably low fillrate, and geometry bottlenecks (still!). Vega is an HPC/Enterprise GPU marketed to consumers. Things like HBCC (which accounts for a significant chunk of silicon) are practically useless for gamers. HBM2 is actually great technology, Issue has been time and time again memory suppliers have fucked AMD over (hence RX Vega HBM spec being 945 MHz instead of the 1000 MHz it should be). In my opinion, AMD needs to rethink the high-level implementation of GCN (scalable number of pipelines), and produce multiple dice (like Nvidia does).

Only because they're not in a position to do so, though.

I've heard speculation that they aren't going to be able to do this because of their poorer relationship with TSMC.