Father Ted writer Graham Linehan given harassment warning
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45777689
Reading through, she is a shitty person and he acted like a child and decided to be shitty to her in kind.
And sure, him tweeting her pre-transition name is shitty and misuse of personal information, but she tweeted his fucking home address. There is a difference of scale here and she should be the one getting the lawsuit.
"But I refuse to respect the pronouns of misogynists."
And that's why he's being sued, and why he got the warning. He thinks that TERF, which stands for trans-exclusionary radical feminist, is a misogynistic term/a slur when it's... not? It's literally just an acronym to describe transphobic feminists. What he actually means is "I refuse to recognise her as transgender because I disagree with her".
Plus he praised the anti-trans feminists that interrupted London Pride and called them "heroes".
Also the comments about how surgery some transgender people undertake was "something out of a david cronenberg movie".
And literally saying to someone they're a man pretending to be a woman.
Ugh, this is messy business. It's a fight we're best leaving to the groups involved and staying well put of.
Also, no.
He's a public figure, as is his wife, and he should know better than to do something like that. She's a private individual, who found his wife's publicly available Companies House registered address and then directed people to it. The difference is one wanted their old name forgotten, and buried because that's not who they are or want themselves to be known as and the other decided to use it to gain some kind of advantage? What was he thinking in that moment? He's a public figure with 400k+ followers.
The article makes it sound more like it's about a debate over whether you should need a medical document to have your gender legally changed, no mention of terfs.
Mr Linehan - also known for writing Black Books and The IT Crowd - had given his backing to a support group of trans women who are opposed to self-identification and said he would back their campaign on social media.
Let's see what Stonewall, the UK's leading LGBT rights charity, has to say on the matter:
https://www.stonewall.org.uk/gender-recognition-act
Their stance is that a medical diagnosis shouldn't be required, and this is why members of groups like that are considered trans-exclusionary. I don't believe the group was originally gender-critical, as Stephanie Hayden is against their stance entirely as well. No idea why the BBC article says she is gender-critical herself, she tweeted literally a few days ago calling out others for being so.
Maybe they're both assholes and the law has no reasonable place sending warnings to anyone over twitter arguments. It makes sense if people are sending death threats but this is ridiculous.
Twitter, a place where a billionaire can tweet and affect his share price significantly enough for the SEC to prevent him from being chairman of his company for three years, isn't somewhere the law should affect.
People ARE sending death threats to that woman and others because of this too. It doesn't matter if either person is being more of an asshole than the other, are you saying the transphobia was rightly allowed to be there and that the police shouldn't be involved in someone being transphobic?
But its not so bad that she tweet a home fucking address because oh he said mean shit to her. Get the fuck over yourself, she's a dangerous person. Him posting about her pre-transition is a dick move, her posting a FUCKING HOME ADDRESS is a socipathic move. She is not some pitiful, unsung hero, she's a societal hazard.
Maybe if somebody was consistently harassing to the same person in a transphobic way, they should be sued, but I don't think the law should be prosecuting speech.
I hear you're a TERF now, Graham.
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/637/3eb4788d-04b5-4414-88a5-d9f350ff09d3/image.png
The law shouldnt get involved in petty arguments in general, the platform does not matter. If people are sending death threats go after them, but for some bizzare reason you seem to think either of these people should be prosecuted for other people sending death threats. This obviously makes no sense.
Any police force that limits "transphobia" by prosecuting people who disagree with them on twitter need to undergo drastic reforms to strip out the hard authoritarian bent they're on, to say the least. Obviously the problem is the wider UK government with the police force redirecting limited funds they keep whining about not having enough of away from actual crimes into this stupid shit. They're using the draconian laws to their selfish advantage because mass-prosecution of online bullshit is gives more numbers for less money despite being far, far less effective at actually helping anyone.
This. I don't think it matters what the wider implications of the argument are, because to me it seems like two petty, nasty people having a workplace spat.
Of course the police shouldn't get involved with someone being transphobic.
I'm a transwomen and I personally agree that medical diagnoses should be required. Stonewall doesn't have the same opinions as everyone who is transgender you know.
I'm honestly surprised it's taken this long. Calling him 'toxic' on Twitter would be an understatement.
It's crazy he even still has his account, since he's consistently been awful to people on there for years.
Are you saying the transgender group in the article who argues against self-identification is trans-exclusionary?
I understand there are different opinions on the matter, but labelling everyone who feels a medical diagnosis is necessary as TERFs is a bit out of touch.
Linehan is a cunty mccunting cuntington smythe of the cuntiest order and has been picking fights and spouting cunt babblery on Twitter since before Twitter was even a globally-recognized trend. Baffled it's taken him this long to get shat upon, though surprised it's by the bobbies.
I would've expected some utter twat to pop him in the beezer rather than him get a cop warning. Not that I'm condoning it, just saying it's what I'd have expected to hear.
Why are harassment warnings news now. Cancel culture is AIDS.
Sorry. I just thought it was an interesting story to put in context general freedom of speech limitation around the world.
beezer
northern irish slang usually used by spides or steeks, when describing something is cool, amazing or cracker.
What's a beezer, as I assume you weren't putting him in an amazing Irish bloke, which would make you a pimp?
Why twitter fights get police involvement
I've always heard it used by my stepfather (a former Cockney market stall owner) used in the context of 'punched in the beezer', IE face/nose, the general area you'd punch a cunt.
Graham Lineham believes the law should be prosecuting speech, and that people should go to prison even for offensive jokes, which makes this warning all the sweeter.
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