• 'Third of girls' harassed in school uniform
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45777787
We can probably safely blame Japan for this one.
Does anyone actually think Uniforms are suppose to be a way to stop bullying and shit? No. Schools just get kickbacks from companies that make uniforms.
It's very clear in the article it isn't about fellow students, but grown men hurling sexual abuse/sexually harassing, or worse at school girls publicly in the street.
do you live on cloud cuckoo land or what?
Are you referring to my tasteless joke on the hypersexualization of schoolgirls in Japan or the BBC's advice to it's readers?
both.
It's kind of silly but one of my proudest moments was getting a chance to interview my high school's assistant principal about the uniform policy the year before it went into effect. Her answers were essentially just, "It'll fix everything because we said it will." I'm not going to get into it unless anybody is really interested, but it only exacerbated the social issues we were promised it would solve. Example: Kids with money will always find ways to look nicer/flex on their peers. Uniforms don't magically stop that.
Most of us here like to know more, so go ahead and share if you feel like typing it out. But as you implied; rich kids will flaunt their iPhone's and gaudy shoes more, or whatever dumb fad they come up with.
No wonder your name's "resonant", you're a hollow vessel.
There are some advantages to school uniforms but none of them are as grandiose as promoting equality and ending discrimination.
Especially not when the uniform is not even the same for boys and girls. Stick 'em all in an orange jumpsuit, that'll teach 'em the true meaning of uniformity.
I'd rather resonate like a bell than howl like a bitch any day.
Honestly, he's not stupid... I've seen quite a few of his posts, however, if you knock hard enough, you do get a Resonance Cascade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP5Oi8GA3ys
Uniforms are in a lot of cases actually about maintaining dress standards.
Ideally, yes. Then the uniforms themselves turn out to be ugly as shite. That's the takeaway from my school days.
tbh, as a schoolkid, I found plaid skirts pretty hot. Now I just find that creepy, granted.
I stopped counting how many times a class had been interrupted by uniform inspections, shit was fucking annoying to everyone.
I still don't know why a lot of catholic/private schools here using British style uniforms in Australian weather. I understand a lot of it is about keeping up appearances and standards but urrrgh wearing long pants in summer is not fun, also lower years had to wear shorts in summer at the school I went to even if the weather was cold and I know at least one girl got in trouble for wearing trousers instead of a skirt. Public Schools in Aus also have uniforms but at least they're more fitting for the weather and tend to be stuff like shorts and loose track pants with t-shirts.
Honestly, I have a suspicion this probably isn't all that different to the proportion of women/girls who are harassed generally. I don't think it is a problem specifically with school uniform, just with shitty people and their shitty attitudes to women.
I've read some documents and experiences writen by women about the sexual harassment they experienced. As Ravenholme says its about shitty people thinking is "OK" to act like cunts towards kids and teenagers. So, if anyone of you see someone being a cunt towards a student on the street, call him/her out. At least that is what I'll do.
anime irl /s
And yesterday, a man overheard my coworker mention how he'd hate to be a woman in the U.S. And the man just looked so confused and questioned what on earth could he be going on about. Granted, I understand this is a BBC article about the U.K., but you'd be positively deranged to think the U.S. is less misogynistic than the U.K.
Misogyny in the UK is class-structured and a whole different beast to misogyny in the US. I'd personally say the US is worse-represented, mostly because your serving commander-in-chief is actively misogynist and a rape denialist and rape culture apologist, but I wouldn't exactly say either nation is worse in actuality than the other. Similar to how people gloss over the fact that the UK has almost identical race issues to the US-- it's just handled better by the nation's PR.
Okay so to preface I gotta set up our demographics. My city is poor as fuck. Individually I think most do alright but as a whole, we ghetto. We didn't even have a bus system, you just applied to the office and got an unlimited use city bus pass. Racially its kind of unique too as its roughly (in terms of the school at least) 49% white, 49% black, 1% anything else at all. I don't wanna speculate too hard as to why but I never really saw any racism, you would get your ass beat so even people with sketchy views kept that to themselves. People do get shot, there were a few people to die during my time there and the building had a some visible gunshot marks you could spot if you knew where they were. The other thing to preface is what kind of uniforms we had. These weren't your typical catholic schoolgirl get-ups. In fact, a lot of us were in favor of something that like that.. It was supposed to be a grey or black polo and dress pants. The problem was that they never really pinned down the specific guidelines. You weren't supposed to have logos, but as I said the drug dealers and rich kids would buy Ralph-Lauren or other high end brands so they could flex. They never really decided what amount of collar buttons was okay, so you could just randomly be sent home because a teacher didn't like you having four buttons (or a pocket) meanwhile twelve other kids that day wore the same kind of shirt. One day I had a speech and I asked my teacher if we were allowed to wear dress shirts like the teachers did. I was told, "The uniform is a minimum, so you're allowed to dress nicely for a project." I wore a thrift store button up and tie. My whole outfit was like $6. Still, my principal came and pulled me from my class and yelled at me. I'll never forget him screaming "I don't appreciate what you're doing!" because he perceived it as some sort of show-off maneuver. I was sent home and on the way out I joked about it with the kids wearing the Gucci polos, "Hey man my whole outfit costs less than your lunch but naw I'm just showing off WHITE PRIVILEGE by wearing a $0.50 tie to school" (if it doesn't come across in text this was hilarious and not all bad vibes) We had problems with truancy, but this was only exacerbated by the fact that the poorer students, or even just students from busy households, would often not be able to get their uniform in order before school. So students were constantly being sent home for uniform infractions and missing out an education over something as silly as wearing navy pants. I was in the tech program so I went to our local community college for the first half the day and if I got to school and realized I had forgotten my polo, I'd have to just skip school and go home because if I went inside, or went home to change and thus was late, they'd put me in in-school-suspension for the rest of the day. And I swear, they refused to let me to get assignments to work on from my teachers as punishment. It was also just depressing. The uniforms were ugly as hell. The lack of expression really sucked, but it wasn't just that. After a while your brain would just start to associate the ill-fitting grey shirts and baggy dress pants with a bad look. If you've ever worked fast food you know that 100% of people look uglier in their uniforms. Everyone you know that give a shit what you look like is in this building, and you have to wear your ugliest outfit everyday. This isn't my biggest point, but like I said it would have been cool to have fancy uniforms. It would have been cool to have any sense of pride in what you look like when getting ready for school. It was supposed to stop people from showing any sort of gang affiliation. But you'll never stop teenagers from finding ways to subtly clue each other in on associations below the radar of adults. At the very least, you can't take away hand signs and graffiti. My final point is that the administration knew damn well that we had plenty of students who were "wear your older brothers ripped hand-me-downs" kind of poor and they were very vocal about their inability to pay for uniforms. If you had two or three kids in school, you had to buy multiple outfits per kid and then throughout the year you'd need replacements. It doesn't sound that expensive, but buying new clothes that match a guideline is a lot harder than finding clothes to wear. You can get free clothes, you cant get free uniforms.
I think Japan had a common occurrence of older men paying high school girls for "companionship". There'd be these older guys in like their 50s hanging out with girls in their school uniforms, so Japan made it illegal for older men to be accompanied in public by girls in school uniforms
Yeah but why settle for one when you can do both, right
Blaming Japan for people in your country being creeps is pretty stupid. Why not blame the people being creeps...
They must really envy the less attractive girls. It says a lot about how we live in a society that these girls have their self esteem damaged by cat callers so often.
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