I must be really out of touch because I've never heard of Better Help.
I've seen a few people I'm subscribed to promote it.
Been following the better help shit and boy is DeFranco a filthy fuck lol
Saving money on getting therapy, if you're looking to save money then you're not looking for therapy, if you market your "therapy" as being cheaper, you aren't marketing therapy.
God Bless Pewdiepie.
His Attitude of coming in and kicking shit over in these bullshit situations is welcoming.
It's also that YouTubers with an audience that might need therapy, has an incentive to push this onto them since they get a commission. They are actively targeting weak people, and exploiting them for personal gain.
Oof, that seems REALLY shady and puts a lot of YTers into a new light
BetterHelp is no doubt selling peoples data and doing some shady shit
But this? Fuck off.
The value of a service like BetterHelp is that it's affordable. I signed up for the service 3 months ago when I was literally ready to kill myself. I didn't have the werewithall to read the TOS, or otherwise. I just wanted to talk to someone.
Guess what it costs for me to visit a therapist in Canada, with a doctors recommendation? Well over 135$, per session.
I pay for a month worth of time through BetterHelp, and get as many sessions as I can possibly book with my therapist(who I can also dismiss to get a new one should I want to do that) and I do so at a lower price, that's more efficient for my time, and my needs.
Whether they're marketing solutions or therapy or whatever, the one woman I've met with for 3 months has been one of, if not the best, therapist I've seen in my whole life.
So yes, the service, and it's TOS is shady as fuck. The company itself failing to go to bat for the customer base is shady as fuck.
But please, this view point that because you want to save money on therapy, then you're not actually looking for it is just straight up toxic nonsense.
I've received some very valuable help from the therapist I met with and still see. I'd have paid considerably more to see one in person, and had considerably more difficulty in scheduling it as well.
We should shit on them for factual reasons, not nonsense like "therapy shouldn't be cheaper".
How so? Looking for cheaper therapy somehow makes it not therapy...how? I don't understand such arbitrary feelings.
My wording wasn't the best with that, I apologise, I never meant in a sense of, you're doing it wrong, I was seeing it as them trying to market it as being cheap and thus able to get more people to jump on board and potentially fuck over.
If you can get therapy that's cheaper than another service is offering and it's legit, brilliant, but it's the credibility of going for something that's cheaper, is it cheaper because they want to make it more affordable for people or is it to just scam people easily?
Like conceptually you are objectively wrong. If I got given the choice between $0 therapy, subsidized by the government, carried out by a licensed professional doctorate holding therapist, and the same but for $100...it is obvious, at least to me, that if I pursued the $0 therapy because of its cheapness, it would not stop being therapy. If you dislike the actual organization or their doctors, that's one thing, but...come on, be rational.
I don't think it's so much "cheap therapy isn't therapy" but cheap, mass produced style therapy like this isn't really gonna guarantee you the help you need to the degree a real therapist would, though that's not to say that's a perfect solution. Especially to say that they're a service that will connect you to a professional therapist then to say they hold no accountability over whether or not your therapist is even a therapist at all or just some dude. Like, yeah, therapy is expensive, let me tell you, but your mental health isn't something you should just find a quick and cheap fix for, it's something you should try to invest in imo. Hell, you may even get a friend out of it like i am with my therapist.
The other option was "see local therapist once, get no help long term".
So, what should I have done? What should people who are poorly served by the industry do? Even in Canada, a country with great healthcare, seeking mental health professionals out is not something you can afford to do if you're struggling with financial issues as it is.
I've yet to get the right type of therapy, all funded by the government and they might help other people, but they didn't do shit for myself, I even got talked out of carrying on something because it wasn't the right type of therapy for me, which they were right, it wasn't.
Like I don't want to defend Betterhelp because they're quite literally selling my info off. I got lucky, because I got an actual therapist who has been very, very good. I've seen enough in real life under different contexts to know when I've met a decent one. So I don't want to defend them even if I did get lucky.
What I want to do is make it clear that no where, no country that I'm aware of, is mental healthcare actually affordable.
Yes, it's a god damn shame. So when someone needs help they're going to find it where they can. Every country, and every health providing system is at fault for failing to provide a decent alternative that's viable. Betterhelp is responsible for their failures. Our countries are all responsible for the existance of for profit therapist services like this.
Chill out man, nobody is attacking you. I'm glad that you got the help you needed and i'm not saying you're somehow a worse person for it. Believe me, you're preaching to the choir about financial issues, but i'm definitely saying if the means are there or the opportunity presents itself, definitely find a legit, professional therapist.
I'm chill dude.
I've been to 8 over the course of my life, and I hate to say, the one I met through this service is one of the best ones I've ever met.
The service no doubt has shysters, fraudsters and scamsters on it. That sucks and should be rectified as soon as possible.
But I won't be able to afford "legit professional therapists" for a long, long, long time because
1) Their rates keep going up
2) Everything keeps getting more expensive
3) I don't get paid anymore in contrast to the more expensive world around me
we all know that cycle and how vicious it is. If you're seeking help in a modern nation, and you're not well off, you really do have to take whatever legs up you can get.
Oh for sure, again i'm not really saying that you shouldn't or that you flip the cosmic bad person switch by wanting to save money. There's no questioning, regardless of opinion or political stance, that mental health is the source for a lot more problems both personal and societal than we'd care to admit and frankly no country is taking the steps it should to get folks the help they need. I guess the general bottom line i'm going for is more if people are going to go through a service like this, they should do some research and weigh the pros and cons, y'know? As you should with anything.
In theory, this could work... but it's literally just monetizing desperation the way they carry it out.
Fucking disgusting.
Uh, I'm not sure what this is referring too, because I can't watch the video: it's been copyright blocked by PewdiePie CMS.
https://my.mixtape.moe/rfkisq.png
how does this happen
It's blocked for me now as well
I think you're missing what PDP said in the end. "To be fair I don't think the Youtubers don't know what they are doing and what they are promoting sounds good on paper." He's not calling anyone out, but essentially telling everyone to not substitute them for ACTUAL therapists with real mental issues. It leaves me to think that people like boogie, as respectful as he is, just ran right into the net without thinking and will hopefully need to clear some air.
DeFranco's been a filthy fuck for the longest
https://twitter.com/OmNomDomz/status/1049815179431559169
Domics pulling out of the sponsor and will donate the sponsorship money to a proper mental health institution. (Two follow tweets.)
I'm still trying to find all this evidence to begin with because to my knowledge its only been the TOS which, other services just like Better Help have the same clauses, Better Help has said they're going to rewrite those specific clauses.
And bad reviews which have been cherry picked.
Like, can anyone actually point toward actual evidence?
I'm glad it helped you. There is nothing wrong with getting help from various sources.
However, you would think that the sale of medical/mental health data is illegal...and if it isn't by some loophole I can see these guys getting sued.
Second of all, there seems to be no verification process as to whom you are speaking with and their credentials. This site seems to be operating in a grey area and has a lot of terms in attempt to cover their own asses.
I have nothing against sites like this, but if they are going to advertise that they are professional help they need to have professionals employees. The site just screams shady and it isn't that I want it taken down, I want them to do better and actually be trust worthy. If they don't act in an ethical way they could do more damage to someone, especially if they are in an state of extreme emotional distress or having really serious mental issues.
Again, I'm glad you got help and I'm glad you didn't end your life. I'm glad something like this was there for you, its just important they're held to a higher standard because mental health is important. Peoples well being is important, your well being is important.
You guys mind providing context to this, because in the video he's only shown once in a clip from one of his shows doing the sponsered ad, and for the rest of the video isn't seen again,.
Funny how PewDiePie became so well liked lately. I absolutely despised him back in the day and now I subscribe to him and actually look forward to his videos. His thought process is refreshing
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