The producers of "Venom" reveal that the sequel with Carnage may not be R-rated - Sensationalist Headlines

Yes, most of the interview is about the Morbius standalone film nobody wants, but they also have this juicy bit regarding the Venom sequel: http://collider.com/morbius-movie-filming-details/#sony I’m representing all the of the fans out there…because there’s a lot of people who are older, and you’re trying to hit both audiences with PG-13. TOLMACH: Then I think it’s absolutely possible. For sure. ARAD: You know what? When you hear Venom…forget Venom. When you hear, Carnage, the only thing you can think of is R. But, if you know his story, if you really know the comic, there’s no R here. He’s a tortured soul. It’s not about what he does, because we never have to show the knife going from here to there, and the blood is pouring. What you have to show is, what is the motivation? Was he born like that, or it’s someone we should feel for, because if you are succeeding to make a villain someone you can feel for, jackpot. A PG-13 sympathetic Carnage. My fucking sides. Avi Arad will never cease being a massive joke. Also, congrats to everyone who helped make Venom a massive hit this weekend. You're all directly responsible for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaYE0XTnqOw

You can thank Disney for this too for refusing to cross over a character from an R-rated movie with their current Spider-Man franchise

Realtalk: Was the venom movie any good? Because all that I saw were the early reviews that made it look on par with suicide squad. Like I'm probably not going to see it anyways. I love spiderman, but Venom is one of those characters that as far as I am aware requires the hero in order to be interesting. Like the Joker to batman, although I'm probably going to have some Joker fanboys saying that the Joker is a well rounded character on his own ...

His name is fucking Carnage His symbiote has become his blood They couldn't get away with showing Carnage doing his thing back then because it was a point in Marvel where they'd talk a big game about being gritty and dark, then defeat the bad guy with a laser beam which shoots concentrated love. Carnage was created specifically to make Venom seem "soft" by comparison, and thus make Venom the sympathizable one while Carnage filled the slot of irredeemable monster Venom was originally supposed to fill. It's also been proven that audiences will totally go see appropriately R rated superhero films in droves. Capitalize on that.

The parts with Venom were fun, the parts without Venom were garbage

I genuinely don't care what his motivation is. He's a fucking big red alien monster and I want to see him split someone in half and look scary. The children are busy with Fortnite anyway

I mean equally Batman isn’t an interesting character without villains.

Also do movie ratings actually prevent children from seeing movies? I know there are some crazy rich theatres that have doormen at each theatre but 99% of the time you can just buy a ticket to Wheres Waldo and walk right into Gorecum III with nobody saying anything.

To be fair, the idea of rating a superhero movie a hard R probably scares the crap out of shareholders and investors who, lets be honest, probably don't watch these. There was a lot of talk during the Deadpool movie's development to make it PG-13 rated. You gotta put yourself into the shoes of someone who just wants a return on their investment. "Superhero movies are supposed to be family friendly! We can't make it R rated! That would limit our audience!" It's dumb, I know.

Do we really know that was the reasoning? I pretty much assumed Kevin Feige didn't want Venom part of the MCU regardless of what it was rated, cause he knew it would suck. And Bob Iger already has said he thinks the existing R-rated Deadpool can continue within the MCU - did he go back on that recently?

Some theatres by me will check tickets if they see kids unattended in a theatre during the first week or so. I imagine they'd kick them out if they saw they didn't have a ticket for that specific showing, or didn't have chaperones with them. The really shitty/outdated theatres don't give a shit and will let anyone in as long as they pay for the ticket.

If it starts out as a PG-13 film it might work. With Venom you can clearly tell that they created a movie aimed at adults then pared it down, and it comes across as disjointed.

They always have people by the doors at movie theatres in the UK.

Cool! Another fucking cash grab! Gonna boycott it the same way I am with Venom. Either give me a real Carnage film or don't fucking bother.