• UN Warns Climate 'Genocide' is Coming
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https://nymag-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2018/10/un-says-climate-genocide-coming-but-its-worse-than-that.html?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=http%3A%2F%2Fnymag.com%2Fintelligencer%2F2018%2F10%2Fun-says-climate-genocide-coming-but-its-worse-than-that.html >Hundreds of millions of lives are at stake, the report declares, should the world warm more than 1.5 degrees Celsius, which it will do as soon as 2040, if current trends continue. Nearly all coral reefs would die out, wildfires and heat waves would sweep across the planet annually, and the interplay between drought and flooding and temperature would mean that the world’s food supply would become dramatically less secure. Avoiding that scale of suffering, the report says, requires such a thorough transformation of the world’s economy, agriculture, and culture that “there is no documented historical precedent.” >The New York Times declared that the report showed a “strong risk” of climate crisis in the coming decades; in Grist, Eric Holthaus wrote that“civilization is at stake.” >If you are alarmed by those sentences, you should be — they are horrifying. But it is, actually, worse than that — considerably worse. That is because the new report’s worst-case scenario is, actually, a best case. In fact, it is a beyond-best-case scenario. What has been called a genocidal level of warming is already our inevitable future. The question is how much worse than that it will get. We're all going to fucking die. Fuck everyone who supported politicians who deny climate science.
Inducing catastrophic levels of climate change and ignoring warnings from scientists to own the libs!!
Nazis will get in power in every country on earth as the refugee crisis happens. If it's inevitable all I want is to see the rich who let this happen punished. Punished beyond anything seen in history.
I should learn how to use a gun and get those teakwondo classes I always said I would get around to signing up for.
It's basically karmic justice at this point. Humanity fucked with nature for a hundred years or so, and now its gonna fuck us twofold.
Well, there might be no world for my children. Fucking hell...
I mean like 99% of people have no say in these issues, it's a problem created due to sociopaths reaching power in most places and fucking everything up for their own short term gain.
Meanwhile, Trump has announced he thinks reports like these are just a political move to make him look bad: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/10/10/who-drew-it-trump-asks-of-dire-climate-report-appearing-to-mistrust-91-scientific-experts/
Mm. The world is setting itself up for collapse. I fear there is little that can be done to prevent it. The best we can do as individuals is prepare for it.
I mean the fault of climate change lies in unregulated capitalism, which is why Republicans are often climate change deniers. The truth is that 99% of people have either supported it or sat idly by why it happened. And that includes me I guess, all I've done is vote left wing and complain about it on the Internet. That said, what the fuck can we do? Let's not pretend for a moment that driving an electric car and having shorter showers would have any effect.
Sometimes I feel like the comments people make about stuff like this are like the terminals in The Talos Principle. Fear, dismay, anger, all recorded for someone in the far future to see.
Fitting title because murdering and expropiating the 1% and everyone who endorses, votes and lobbies for them right now seems to be the only sane solution and the less gruesome headline
It is not the fault of the rich. It is the fault of mankind. We didn't know what we were doing until we had consumption behaviors so entrenched in our society, pulling us up and out of agrarian life and into the industrial era. Humans have always taken the most that they can with the tools at hand. Look at every example of ancient human wiping out easy to hunt species to extinction just to have a meal for a few years, without looking at the inevitable outcome and disaster. If you're going to blame anything, don't blame rich republicans, blame human nature and science, because without the technological advances of the last few hundred years we wouldn't have exploded in population and the ability to rape the earth for her resources. It's ironic that now science and technology will be our only hope of being able to mitigate he damages we've caused, and I understand that there are people in power with influence and money that are standing in the way now, but they didn't light the house on fire, they are just standing in the doorway as we're trying to escape intact.
This is why I've decided to not have kids. It would be too cruel to let them live in the world of tomorrow.
Plenty, actually. The vast majority of the world's global emissions originate from consumers buying and using products and services. Choosing wisely how you live your life, what you consume and how often can have a significant impact on your own carbon footprint. The more people make the appropriate conscious choices, the more they hinder climate change and the more they get the ball rolling for others to follow in their footsteps even more easily.
Uhg...
Socialism is the answer! Not social democracy but literallly the abolition of capitalism It cannot be reformed and will literally kill us all if we dont stop it!
industrialization was a mistake
Socialism got shut down by American and British interests, unbridled capitalism won.
Maybe we can use the climate crisis to energize socialist movements? Maybe crafting a constitution early on can prevent despots from hijacking the movement?
Socialism isn’t going to save you from the impact human lifestyle has on the environment. Ya’ll are like Christian cultist only Socialism is your savior.
Yeah ur probably right, plus its too late at this point. I think im gonna start learning gardening tho, just cause maybe it will help my neighbors and I
No, the average person living in less wealthy and more corrupt nations like India, Brazil, China, USA etc. are the biggest polluters. afaik Western Europe does much better than the rest of the world
Rooting for yellowstone to erupt and bring on another ice age tbh. Or some kind of super bacteria killing off 80% of humanity. Hoping me and my family will be in the 20% but if I'm not at least someone is
what's the point of even doing anything anymore like getting a degree or going about life with a planned future when everything just seems so fucking futile and pointless. why should i bother going through university or getting a big career anymore when society is going to fucking unravel the moment coastal cities get flooded. at this point how can I be anything but pessimistic and defeatist. we're at a point of no return, the worst case scenario, and all I hear is just this maddening despair situations. should any of us bother at this point? what can be done?
Get a high paying job and use the money to build a bomb shelter with like 30 years worth of non-perishable rations in the mountains
I am applying to colleges this week no joke. I love history and computer science. How the fuck can I justify continuing with my degree knowing this shit? These skills dont mean shit in 20 years. Should I pretend and just float on? Does that make me complicit in the problem? I wanna follow my passions but there seems to be no point.
Plus, it's like a 99% guarantee that you're gonna die anyways. Nearly every human has who has ever lived has died, but the jury is still out on about 7 billion of them.
Enjoy the normalcy while it's still around and try to get the most of what you can while time is still available, I guess.
I live in northern colorado, a place that on the surface seems great for surviving climate change (landlocked) The problem however is not even food or flooding, its water. Denver area is basically a desert, it just seems nice because we have water from reservoirs pumped in. I am applying to college in both washington state and southern california, both of those places are also fucked. My family is split between ohioans, nebraskans and coloradans. Basically my entire family will die of dehydration and or starvation and I will die in a flash flood. Fuck.
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