The line "This is your fucking fault" at 1:18 sounded so out of place I had to pause cause I thought some video on another tab automatically went on
I legit thought that was something out of a Big Lez video.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/the-official-big-lez-show/images/0/09/Leslie_Mackerel.png/revision/latest?cb=20170115221534
I feel like they are trying to make a game out of a movie or something, they seem to be focusing so heavily on the characters and undoubtedly the changes they will undergo through the game.
And it's just... not what I want?
Like Call of Duty World at War did characters well I think. You started with soldiers and ended with soldiers, but you learned more about the personality of the characters by fighting with them and the dialogue they spoke and choices they made. You however were just "along for the ride" mostly and while you were referred to, you didn't really have a face. But here it seems they want to put you in the shoes of some character with a personality that they want you to adopt and accept, and probably expect you to develop alongside the character. And it just doesn't sound like fun. I expect lots of "emotional" moments and the like. Which isn't so bad on it's own when done delicately and timed well, but when you are making a single player experience based on several different main characters and portray them like shown, that's all I am really expecting the campaign to focus on.
It's probably inevitable because modern BF, but I expect this will end up like BF1 where the general idea/concepts behind the various characters are cool and legitimately unique, but the actual playtime will be too short for you to fully attach and appreciate each character properly.
I hope I'll be wrong though, because the shit shown here is legit cool.
So....what is the story exactly besides it taking place during WW2?
This trailer is the only thing I've seen since E3, so I have no clue what is going on story wise.
Does this look interesting to anyone? Cause I just don't see what is supposed to make me go "I want this".
Its the same deal as BF1, you get five differrent stories of varying length, each of them being very character-driven.
Prologue: Likely just one mission involving an air battle, perhaps Battle of Britain?
Nordlys (1943, Norway): "This story involves a young resistance fighter who carries a weight greater than her weapons and ammo. Her story centers on not only her fight for her country’s liberation from occupying forces, but her family’s survival."
Tirailleur: "It’s high-intensity all-out infantry warfare, where Senegalese units of the French Colonial Forces fight to liberate the French “homeland” that they’ve never even seen before."
Under No Flag: "Tasked with blowing up German air bases in the scorching North African desert, a young British criminal with poor judgement causes mayhem – but learns valuable lessons."
The Last Tiger: ""In the twilight of WW2, the German Army descends into chaos. A lone Tiger tank crew begins to question the ideology that got them to this point."
I dunno, the North African and French campaigns look interesting enough, at least in concept. Shane that the Battle of Britain is going to be another Storm of Steel
It's nice to see they're doing something with the Germans for once instead of being afraid of it. Because so many people just assume Germans = Bad. And people will shit their pants and start screaming about how it's unethical just because you're playing as a German.
Which is such bullshit because while obviously not all of the German army thought this way, there were legitimate soldiers that were just conscripted and didn't want to take part in all the ideological bullshit the Nazis were doing. It's why at the end of the war you had cases of the German army turning around and joining the Allies to take down what remained of the SS and other Nazi holdouts. A good example of this is the Battle for Castle Itter. That seems to be the idea DICE are going with...
Smallest nitpick ever, but the satmap could have used some Photoshop work, because I don't think Britain had roundabout interchanges in the 40s:
https://files.facepunch.com/forum/upload/1195/fa3efa35-935c-45e0-bc29-293471b154fe/45446.PNG
And that battle had a grand total of 13 Heer soldiers and 1 Waffen SS member fighting alongside the Allies.
Why is it such a hard concept to grasp that the vast, vast majority of members of the Wehrmacht (ie, the German Armed forces, and including conscripts) ideologically aligned with the Nazis, at least in some fashion? We have the proof of this, we know the Werhmacht was more than complicit in warcrimes in every single theatre in operated in. There's a great book written based on conversations between German POWs, and surprise surprise they're quite often talking about raping, murdering civilians, etc... Just because there were handful of those that, at the end, go "oh shit maybe we're the baddies" doesn't somehow cleanse the rest of the organization.
The description of the story sounds promising, but I have my doubts that DICE will competently pull off The Last Tiger. The writing in BF1 was so simplistic, I doubt we'll get anything interesting or risky in terms of the characters. I'm expecting the characters to be bare-bones soldier characters with a few lines of non-opinionated dialogue referencing Adolf Hitler, and nothing else.
Yeah sure, each German soldier raped at least one poor Russian woman and at least cold-blooded murdered one innocent civilian. Why is it so hard to grasp that not every single person out of millions were die-hard nazis who only vowed to reap blood all over Europe is being just as bad as the whitewashing done by the Wehraboos about the Wehrmacht? All of this is blatantly ignoring all those thousands of soldiers and officers who disagreed with the Nazi Regime, like Hans Scholl, Karl Plagge, Walter Schulze Bernett, Albert Battel, Heinz Drossel, all those people listed here ?
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Gerechten_unter_den_V%C3%B6lkern_aus_Deutschland
And that's only a fraction, of course it's not counting all those normal soldiers who disagreed with the Nazi Regime but didn't oppose it in a spectacular way. And no, not doing anything against the regime =/= agreeing with it, you shouldn't expect people to be Rambos and stand alone against a dictature controlling almost the entirety of Europe.
Nazi Germany commited a disgustingly high amount of crimes, the Wehrmacht wasn't clean either, but pretending every member of the armed forces was blood thristy human waste that should have been hung is downright disrespectful and doing the exact opposite of what the Wehraboos are doing.
First roundabout was built in 1909 mate, dont go savaging our roundabouts
Considering it was institutionalized by the Wehermacht to slaughter and rape slavic peoples (on the books you weren't supposed to rape, yet on the Eastern Front the administration turned a blind eye to all the mass rapes, because the slavs were "subhuman"), so yes it's not a far-reaching thing to say.
No, it doesn't mean you agree with it - but it makes you complicit in genocide. Nice list you've got, but it's a very small minority of those who served under the Nazi flag.
I never stated that it cleansed the rest of the organization. I don't believe that personally, not in the slightest. The Wehrmacht was institutionally an arm of the Nazi Regime and was completely complicit in its war crimes. Just because a few didn't fully believe that doesn't excuse them at all. I literally was just stating that I've always wanted a story in which that happens, since it'd be realistically the only way to fit a story about being a German soldier in a single player game and have you be the good guy. You've got me all wrong, don't shoot me please.
what's going on with that u-boat
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