Arizona GOP Senate candidate accuses opponent of treason multiple times - Polidicks

https://www.newsweek.com/martha-mcsally-kyrsten-sinema-treason-midterms-debate-antiwar-military-1172034 Republican Senate candidate Martha McSally accused Democratic opponent Kyrsten Sinema of treason during a heated debate in Arizona Monday evening. At the end of the hour-long debate, McSally brought up comments Sinema made as an anti-war activist on a radio program in the early 2000s. When the host of the show made a theoretical comment about joining the Taliban, Sinema responded with, "I don't care if you want to do that, go ahead." McSally, a retired military officer who fought in the United States Air Force from 1988 to 2010, suggested that the 15-year-old comments were the same as levying war against the United States. She asked Sinema to apologize for saying that “it’s OK to commit treason.” Sinema ignored the specifics of the attack and said that McSally had run a mostly negative campaign by using “ridiculous attacks and trying to smear my campaign.” Sinema appeared as a guest on the radio show in 2003 to promote an anti-war protest in Patriots Square Park in Phoenix. After the host went on a long rant that was difficult to follow at times, he concluded with a question about the Taliban. Sinema said go ahead but added: “What we’re talking about here are two different things. When you say, ‘We owe something to the world,’ my definition of owing something to the world does not involve war and destruction.” She then asked to go back to discussing her anti-war stance. On Monday evening, McSally addressed the clip, saying that Sinema said: “it was OK for Americans to join the Taliban to fight against us.” “You said you had no problem with that,” she said. “Kyrsten, I want to ask right now whether you’re going to apologize to the veterans and me for saying it’s OK to commit treason?” She repeated the word treason three times and sent out an email after the debate explaining the definition of treason. The three-term Democratic Congresswoman replied that McSally was “just trying to cut, cut, cut and not share the full picture. But the truth is that I’ve always fought for Arizona, and I’ve been proud to serve our state in elected office for over 13 years.” The calls of treason are an escalation of McSally’s plan to juxtapose her military career with Sinema’s history of anti-war activism, in what is considered a tight race to replace retiring Republican Senator Jeff Flake in Arizona. With just three weeks until midterm elections, a Real Clear Politics poll average has McSally up by just 0.3 percent. McSally, meanwhile, has raised $12,499,752 to Sinema’s $15,688,595. That campaign email also listed the punishments for treason, including execution and bar from office, which is a little ominous.

what the hell happened over the last few years

when people realized you can act like trump in politics and get away with it that and using russian bots to influence social media

Trump normalized fascism.

Everyone withdraws into their own small gated community, afraid of a larger forum. They stay inside their little ponds, leaking whatever "truth" suits them into the growing cesspool of society at large. The different cardinal truths neither clash nor mesh. No one is invalidated, but nobody is right. MGS2 saw this coming.

the baby boomers have started becoming detached from reality and are incapable of believing what they don't see in person or on their chosen network. they're such an information illiterate generation.

Don't worry it's just rhetorical hyperbole. /s

You realize that to an extent, you personally fall victim to similar group bias, right?

At least we don't deny massacred school children as a gun control conspiracy.

Trump won. A lot of people predicted this would happen, that if he won then other republicans would start doing the same shit he did.

I've noticed this myself in recent years. My father seems to be more and more enthralled with watching shows about "ancient astronauts" on the """"History"""" channel and both my parents deep down think Trump is doing a good job. I can't even talk to them about politics. My parents are 59 and 47 respectively and I'm 30. Tried talking to them about the immigrant concentration camps Trump set up. Their focus was on "well they have to stop illegal immigrants". Yeah, but re-enacting what Hitler did is not the correct way to go about it. They didn't want to hear it and claimed I only got into politics once Trump got into office. And the "fake news" cries whenever I bring up a source for something. I've tried telling them to start using a bias checker to check what they're reading to make sure they aren't reading heavily biased information, but they don't care. They know enough about computers to use eBay and Netflix and that's about all they care about. I love my parents but jesus christ their generation is the drizzling shits. How the fuck could our generation come from them? It boggles the mind.

This was my biggest fear and I'm being proven right in the most depressing fucking way imaginable.

It's easy to view others as being worse than yourself to ignore your own problems. This is something we ALL must be aware of; here, some users more than others.

McSally has openly stated she will commit treason if elected, and she has the gall to call her opponent the traitor.

Except Trump only won because he was against Hillary, one of the most controversial and unlikable candidate next to the Bug Bafoon himself.

I thought you were talking about me and shortening my name.

Trump normalized bullshit which can easily lead to fascism if steered the more-wrong way.

We didn't come out without scars

This is the problem with introducing the generation that grew up with fairness doctrine to the internet. All neofascist propaganda groups like Rebel Media, Alex Jones/Paul Watson, Fox, RT, etc. have to do is put on the veneer of legitimacy and they will get suckers to fall for it.

I really hope this doesn't work. Some people were making similarities with Hillary v Trump debates, where Hillary (Sinema here) stayed calm and collected and Trump (McSally here) all about conspiracies and fear.

Nah, she gets even more fringe than that. (though she does like Judge Jeanine for some reason) We're talking "Trump Prophecies" level.

Sure, it seems like they could lose seats, but that's anything but assured. The issue is quite frankly, hard to break down so people will digest it. The gerrymandering that many republican seats are built on aren't going to be easy to over come, if they can be overcome at all. They're just doing what the people are receptive to. That's what should scare you. You don't recieve this shit well, but a staggeringly large portion of American Citizens are embracing this rhetoric. It might be that you're the minority in your nation.

I'm open to actually learning about this evil socialism, comparing foreign healthcare systems to ours and considering how other societies handle their issues instead of basing my entire worldview on what the TV said that one time about long wait times.

Of course you are; you don't have conservative bias, you clearly do have a decent degree of liberal bias though. The things you're echo chambering and are underninformed about aren't the same as these folks.

I don't think so. My job has me working with a lot of elderly people (so, boomers) and honestly these people are almost like children. They will believe anything that someone who seems authoritative will tell them. Gen Xers and millenials can be ignorant and biased and find themselves trapped in bubbles of their own making but nowhere to the universal degree that I observe in the baby boomer generation. It's kinda weird when you think about it because didn't these people come into maturity during arguably the most tumultuous political era since the 1800s?

but see the issue is conservatism today is so full of lies and half truths that the choice is either the objective truth or the subjective one, and if truth is totally subjective all the time then you can't have anything concrete

I get where you're coming from, and technically I would agree, but I think there's a practical difference between being biased towards liberal positions and completely disregarding reality in favor of conservative ones. There's a difference between being willing to accept an idea that you perceive to be popular within your social circle with less evidence than you should, and accepting something that the president says even when it contradicts what he said the sentence before. Or believing wildly extravagant conspiracy theories with zero evidence from completely random sources. The level of gullibility I've seen from 40+ year olds in regards to information they've found on the internet is really frightening.

They were the 60s counterculture, but they were probably ground into what they are today by the death of labor as a political group

59-30 = 29 47-30 = 17 Well it doesn't help that your grown ass dad was fucking high schoolers back in the day

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