60% in the US would prefer reversing tax cuts to help deficits then cut welfare - Polidicks

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/413338-most-prefer-rolling-back-tax-cuts-to-reduce-deficit-poll A majority of Americans say they'd prefer rolling back the GOP tax cut to cutting spending to reduce the deficit, according to a new poll. A poll by NPR, PBS NewsHour and Marist found that 60 percent of adults surveyed preferred repealing tax cuts to cutting government spending and entitlement programs, which only 21 percent supported as a means of reducing the deficit. Just 2 percent said they wanted both, while 17 percent said they were unsure. Democrats have seized on GOP calls for cutting back entitlement programs such as Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security in their campaign messaging. The GOP tax law and a bipartisan spending bill helped fuel a 17 percent spike in the 2018 deficit, which hit $782 billion. The deficit is on track to surpass $1 trillion in 2019, according to White House projections. Republicans hoped that tax cuts would help fuel support for their party in November's midterm elections, but that strategy may have backfired, according to the poll. Forty-five percent, a plurality, said that the tax issue made them more likely to vote for a Democrat, while just 39 percent said it made them more likely to vote Republican. All in all, the poll found, taxes weren't high on the list of voter priorities. Only 11 percent said it was the top factor in their vote. The poll was conducted from Oct. 21 to 23, and surveyed 935 U.S. adults. Its margin of error is 3.9 percentage point.

40% of people are dumb, lower number than I'd expect tbh

the 40% that still believes in the tax cuts are morons or hypocrites that very likely were decrying unlimited blue spending when obama was in office

That two percent that want both, what's up with them.

Remember though, that 40% has an outsized effect due to partisan gerrymandering, voter self-sorting, and the demographics of voting likelihood. Gotta love America. Don't know why we don't have independent non-partisan redistricting committees and mandatory voting; would probably change the whole ballgame.

Michigan and Missouri will vote to create districting commissions in ballot initiatives this year and both have a lot of support. Democracy in the US has been ranging from "not very fucked" to "very fucked" depending on state, for the entire existence of this country.

We have something like the former in Arizona, progress is being made against gerrymandering even if slow

I'm surprised only 2% want both

I understand that. However, with the advent of computer-based algorithms that allow politicians to min-max gerrymandering, along with hyperpolarization/self-sorting, and the recent 'voter fraud' bs oftentimes suppressing voters even more in states that are already gerrymandered heavily-- well, it's somewhat debatable if this era is simply more of the norm in that sense.

2022 will be a huge test to see if gerrymandering is destroyed, most of the important states will have adopted some form of gerrymander protections in the map redistricting

Mandatory voting won't change anything beyond the '% of people who voted' stat. You can't force someone to look at the issues and make a choice that's good for the country. You can force them to tick a box but in all likelihood they'll either tick the first box they come across, tick one entirely at random, or write in something totally pointless. Even sign a totally blank ballot if it's possible to do so. You want people at the polls because they want to be there, otherwise they're not going to do anything useful.

Upon researching this, I agree. Sorry, I was working under the logic that due to lower turnout among younger voters, there is a conservative lean as the more participating populations are older and more conservative. But research indicates that compulsory voting probably wouldn't change much, and I suppose there's valid reasons it isn't used in the vast majority of democratic countries.

They clearly understand it even less than the 40%.

What's to be confused about? If you're intent on tackling the deficit, raising taxes and cutting spending at the same time is the most sensible thing you can do.

It's the mis-guided intention of cutting spending. Help programs? Fuck it, skin them alive, gut them, hang them up to make program jerky. Taxing the poor to help pay off the big money-makers so they can pay less taxes for help programs that are meant to help the poor who are working for them and have to rely on those same tax dollars? Clearly this is how you win!

I'm not confused, I said I was surprised.

mandatory voting is the only thing i take issue with here i imagine if someone is disinterested in politics they'll just either cast a meaningless write-in or vote for the first thing they see/know, the second of which isn't great

IIRC Austrailia uses it and has a problem with 'spoiled' ballots affecting elections, to the point people still try to convince people to vote voluntarily just like they do here.

Not really true. Parties don't really mobilise people to go out and vote like they do in the US, because there's no need. Everyone is going to be voting anyway. Political parties try to influence how people vote by handing out cards which have a recommended preference scheme at polling booths.

I don't know why the US doesn't make election day a federal holiday.

Republicans would scream about how it's unnecessary and lets more electoral fraud happen by getting undocumented immigrants to vote.

big business would be impacted, plus there'd be large amounts of people that still would have to work defeating the whole thing. Christmas just works out to be a time that production is low anyways because its the end of the year.