• AZ Sen: Green Party candidate drops out, tells people to vote Democrat instead
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https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/11/01/green-party-senate-candidate-endorses-democrat-kyrsten-sinema/1851848002/ https://twitter.com/brahmresnik/status/1058121255121866752
Good. Ideally third parties would survive and thrive but as they currently exist in the US, they just fuck the Democrats via spoiler effect. It shouldn't be this way, but with the current first-past-the-post system, a vote for a third party is a vote thrown away.
I'm sorry that she felt she had to do it, but I respect her for it. This election and those in the future aren't a simple "hm, which is better suited?" vote, but one where we really need to vote out GOP. Sticking to your morals and going "hmph, democrats aren't so great either, I'm voting independent/not voting" is selfish and closed minded. We have a party trying to establish a fascist regime, and it's one of those red-alert situations where you drop your "pride" and just accept the two-party system for a little while so we can rid ourselves of fascists in the government, and vote in the only other party that has a shot. When the current crisis is resolved, then we can worry about the democrat issues.
I'm not really sure what the difference is between greens and democrats these days anyways. Ya democrats haven't passed much environmental legislation but that's not to say they haven't adopted much of their platform.
well I think the greens are anti-vax. That's about all I know.
I was a Dem-voting Green Party member for a while (which is, imo, the best way to support third parties; being registered helps them have the numbers they need to attain federal funding until they can start seriously getting involved in national politics) - and I was behind them for their environmental policy and general want for socialization of community and health programs. What ultimately pushed me out from being registered with the party was the relatively large anti-vaxxer presence and the plausible Russian involvement in the 2016 election. Thankfully, not all Greens are like that, but I was only registered with the party for about two years, and even then most of my focus was on Democratic candidates.
I still have some qualms about voting for Joe Donnelly. He's gone back on some of his more conservative views, particularly with lgbt rights, but has also shown support for Trump. I'm afraid that voting him in would just give the GOP more support, though not as much if Braun won. Shit just seems kinda fucked over here.
Well most American Greens are almost further left than Democrats ever since their formation in 2001 as Political Party. Mostly depends as this moment with most all of Democratic Politicians to seemly supporting environmental issues but only several them will voting them due the current state of party is center-right and nearly corruptly toxic. That nice for having good voting history with party but for first second paragraph sentence, Well because their membership is lower than 250K, I going to expect 50 to 100K members believing that self-foretelling stereotype. And yes for latter that one just because last Presidential candidate as regularity guested in increasingly de facto state propaganda because yours having biases against third parties (but for Pro-Democrat ones just only Semi-alternative Left-wing party for moment) has always refused having them be in debates.
I kinda like this routine for third parties; campaign hard and try to be viable, but when it comes down to it and you have 6% in a toss-up race, throw that weight elsewhere. People will respect your good motives and you'll still have spread your agenda and built your base despite not carrying them to the polls.
https://twitter.com/Robillard/status/1058524788082335745
Is this a campaign ad or a smear ad? If you just look at the agenda points, it seems pretty attractive.
wish it had been the other way round
Ughh! Medicare for all?! I don't like good things! Good things are bad!!
That's the point. They know that these are all extremely popular points among left-leaning voters, and by tying Green to them they are hoping it will cause left leaning voters to vote for Green, who has effectively zero chance of winning, instead of voting for the Democratic candidate. They're "weaponizing" the spoiler effect.
Pretty much, but sometimes Democrats can playing this on Republicans too because both Parties are going be very immature on this issue.
This smug, "both sides are as bad as each other" needs to stop.
They make Medicare sound like a nightmare to use because it doesn't do anything to lower drug expenses (probably because some certain interest groups managed to convince law makers to NOT give themselves the power to negotiate drug prices...).
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